chavez vs DLH prime

prime for prime at 130-135-140 CHAVEZ......
prime for prime at 147 OSCAR....

 

Chavez is far and away the greater fighter, but I think Oscar is a bad match for him. That's not to say Chavez couldn't have beaten DLH, especialy at 130lbs or 135lbs, because he may well be the greatest body-puncher in boxing history and DLH's weak spot is the body. But Oscar is naturally bigger, hits harder, faster, and is a very skilled counter-puncher with a considerable advantage in height and reach. I see Chavez trying to apply pressure and having some success, but overall Oscar times him coming in and lands solid combinations, likely taking a UD if both are in their primes. The lower the weight, the better chances for Chavez, and vice versa.

 

Hoya, he was stronger and taller and could use his jab and power to keep Chavez honest and on the outside. I like Chavez a lot but like his son I feel he is blown up by his wins. Chavez faces too strong, fast, and large an opponent in Hoya at anytime in his career.

PS.
Whitaker won.

 

No one could beat Chavez at 135. I mean no one! So not even DLH would have been able to do that. I have a sparring video tape of Chavez sparring with DLH when Chavez was 28 and DLH 18...Chavez knocked DLH down. I think that the 36 year old Chavez that fought DLH (second fight) gave him a match for a while in the beggining of the fight. Now take 10 years off Chavez and fight that same DLH...Chavez would win.

 

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No way Chavez was in his prime at 140 IMO. Probably had his best body of work at 130, but his prime fight IMO was Rosario at 135, it was all slowly down hill from there; as Chavez/MayweatherII (as early as 89) showed.

Chavez wins easy-ish at 130 (TKO11); wins just at 135 (WS15); loses at 140 (LU15) and at 147 (LTKO14).

 

I think Chavez would win in close fights at 130 and 135lbs. However at 140+ Oscar's extra experience and size would get him the win. I think DLH's jab and movement would allow him to outbox Chavez for large portions of the fight, his power would also be enough to keep JCC tentative. Oscar's speed, power, strength and size would garauntee him the win aslong as the fight is at 140lb's +. It would definately be a decision, as I can't see either fighter stopping eachother (although a Chavez TKO at 130lb's is likely).

 

:-(

 

at 140 chavez beat 3 guys that were a little bit better then oscar in some ways...

camacho
lonnie smith
and
meldrick taylor.....

oscar's machismo at 140 would've probably been his downfall....

 

Overall de la Hoya was at least a level above all them fighters at 140. Camacho showed excellent heart in his fight with Chavez, but was dominated. Smith had speed and DKP backing him, but that was basically it. Taylor was brilliant but Chavez ruined him, something JCC could not do to de la Hoya, Oscar was/is, mentally much tougher than Taylor.

 

Duran, Whitaker, Gans

 

Chavez is at his best at 130 or 135 and De La Hoya is at his best at 147 perhaps 140 or 154.

 

DLH was miles better than Lonnie Smith and a 1992 version of Hector Camacho.

And what was this dangerous machismo that Oscar showed at 140? He fought disciplined fights. He was very controlled when he fought Chavez. When he was perhaps tired against MAGO, or bothered by his eye, he stayed away for a couple rounds, before coming back strong in the 12th.