Chavez vs. Duran peak/peak at 135.

I'm not. But if he's not careful, I'm going to expose him.

 

Duran is the superior boxer in ability but so was Miguel Cotto when he fought margarito last week. styles make fights

if JCC can land on duran like de jesus did, i reckon that JCC would knock out duran. them body punches of JCC would destroy anyone

I think that Duran would have to box perfectly to win this fight. I think that JCC would come out the winner 9 times out of 10 in a slug fest. watch the second De Jesus fight. Duran went really wild in that fight and was open to shot to both body and head

the duran of the 3rd De Jesus would would beat any JCC most of the time

 

Big Chavez fan and also believe he gets a bit of short thrift in these matchups but IMO there's no way on earth he's stopping Duran, gosh. Duran took SRL's best slashing combinations very very solidly not to mention big blows from the likes of Hagler and Barkley all the way up at 160. Only the freakish power/speed combo of peak Hearns could pull him up and that's at 154.

If anyones getting stopped it's Chavez, and i also don't think that will happen - tho it's certainly possible. Duran stopped here tho, nooooooo.

 

Just about how I see it too. A stoppage is a wee bit of a long shot. Chavez goes the distance, but drops a UD.

 

On a slightly different note: Hatton vs Duran would be fetch the stretcher time. Duran by KO.

 

Duran is also the superior brawler and inside fighter, much more fluid and not as confined to certain methods as Chavez.

So what are you saying? If he landed a body shot he'd KO Duran? I somehow disagree.

I think Duran was a much better brawler, considering Chavez resorted to boxing when faced with real return fire against the likes of Lockridge and La Porte at 130. Duran was just much more versatile and ferocious on the inside, Chavez a lot more reserved normally. Duran also had the better defense by a fair margin, especially in close.

Chavez may beat the Duran of the first Dejesus fight, but neither of the next two.

 

Not suprising that most pick Duran as JCC is badly underrated on ESB.

Saying that, this is arguably my all time fav mythical match, the only reason I give the edge to Duran myself was because he is naturally bigger & therefore hit harder, otherwise there really is not a great deal between them IMO.

I think the JCC that TKOd Rosario would have a solid chance at beating any LWT version of Duran but the Duran who beat Dejesus in their 3rd fight might take him on pts as that was a very big LWT Duran + he was bang right at his absolute peak in that fight & believe me, it would take the 1978 version of Duran to beat JCC, any other version & I might back JCC from 1987 to win on pts.

What a war. 50/50 fight if not for Duran`s size & power but even then, its a close thriller.

 

Yes, either Chavez or Duran would have done a serious number on Hatton. Either one would have overwhelmed the lad. For that matter, I think a prime Tzysu would have been too much for Ricky. I'm not, by the way, a hater of Ricky Hatton, just a realist, having been around way back then, and having seen the best of Duran, as well as of JCC and Kostya.

 

Great analyzation of these two fights, but the end result is what matters... Palomino was surely beaten by Duran, but on the other hand Rosario was utterly destroyed. This is tough to call. Both are great fighters.

 

The Palomino fight was at WW and against a naturally bigger fighter than Duran. The same is not the case with Chavez and Rosario. Chavez was at his peak for that fight, Duran was not at his peak or best weight for Palomino.

At LW, both at their best, Duran is still too versatile and skilled for Chavez.

 

some of your points pea are subject to debate. thats what makes this fight so great. we would never know who was superior unless these two fought

I remember when De La Hoya fought Tito. Everyone thought that it was going to be classic brawl. Loads of people thought that oscar could only win be KO and brawling. very few thought that he could put on a boxing clinic like he did. Many were saying that tito was the better boxer

You never know until they get in the ring

 

ask meldrick taylor and edwin rosario about jcc'S FEROCITY and effectiveness on the inside

Duran was sometimes gulty of being too ferocious thus leaving himself open to being countered

 

Duran had the best head movement of any pressure fighter ever. I suggest watching more of his fights at LW, you are badly underrating his superb defense. He rarely got tagged flush(aside from in the first round) even in his most aggressive performances like Dejesus II because he either slipped and countered them himself, or rolled with them. He looked fantastic in that fight if you watched closely. Excellent feints as well.

Definitely better defensively than Chavez. Rosario was Chavez's best performance, excellent stuff he showed that night, but he never showed the versatility, or that extra genius as Manassa put it, the way Duran did on different occasions.

Tell me if Chavez was capable of fighting like this, this is what I mean by versatility:

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I am not arguing with you about Durans defence and skills. the man for me is the 3rd best boxer of all time. But styles and attributes make fights and the superior man does not always come out on top.

What happens when duran realises that he cannot hurt Chavez? it may frustrate him. he has never met any one as tecnically sound is well as being extremely tough (I knwo he fough leonard and hagler but he hurt leonard and Hagler held back a bit)

This fight is the most intriguing matchup of all time for me. It would be a great war but a tactical battle is well

 

What makes you think he couldn't hurt him? If someone is there for Duran to hit all night long, Duran isn't going to get frustrated, only when the opposite tactic is applied is that even a possibility. And considering, as I said, Chavez has been backed up before by lesser fighters, I don't think it's out of bounds to think Duran hurts him to either the body or head over the course of 15 rounds.