Chavez vs Sweet Pea. Who ranks higher all time?

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  1. ricardoparker93

    ricardoparker93 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I see that Whitaker gets alot more love on this forum than JCC but I believe their all time rankings ( despite their fight ) are very close.

    Whats your take on this?
     
    ricardoparker93, Oct 25, 2009
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  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Whitaker, no bias needed to make that evaluation.

    More successful at higher weights, more success against better competition in general, never throughly outclassed during his prime, how each fared against a mutual opponent in De La Hoya....

    Factor in their one sided actual match up against one another and how Chavez stuck around for too long even more so then Whitaker and picked up several unnecessary ass kicking and losses...
     
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  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    End of thread.
     
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  4. ricardoparker93

    ricardoparker93 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You could argue that Whitakers skill based style allowed him to travel up and down the weights more easily, and that the fact that the match up between them was at welterweight was a smart tactic on behalf of whitaker to curb Chavez's physical advantages.

    Chavez was never thoroughly outclassed during his prime. His prime ended with Camacho, or before that.

    Sticking around for unnecessary ass kicking does not lower your all time ranking. I think its fair to say that Henry Armstrong, Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali stuck around too long and took some woopings. Does that make a difference to their standing?
     
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  5. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pea, because the whole purpose of their fight was to answer that question.
     
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  6. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Skillwise---Whitaker......... Popularity---Chavez........:deal

    SR.BILL
     
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  7. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I always have trouble splitting these 2, there is no wrong answer, I wish you included a `too close to call` poll.
     
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  8. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Why do you think it's so close, Bill? We saw what happened when they fought.
     
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  9. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hes a Chavez fan thats why :yep Whitaker would have always kicked his ass
     
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  10. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    pernell - easily
     
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  11. smitty_son408

    smitty_son408 J ust E njoy T his S hit Full Member

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    Whitaker, by some distance.
     
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  12. ricardoparker93

    ricardoparker93 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That match up should have happened three years before. At lightweight or light welter, having the fight then and at welterweight defeated the whole point of seeing who was the best.

    Chavez was worn by then.
     
    ricardoparker93, Oct 26, 2009
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  13. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That sure wasn't what everyone was saying at the time of the fight.
     
    My2Sense, Oct 26, 2009
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  14. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Two part awnser. Sneaky. :D
     
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  15. ricardoparker93

    ricardoparker93 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hindsight :good. The greg haugens of this world werent going to show that Chavez had faded from his peak whilst they stood there and were hammered into submission.
     
    ricardoparker93, Oct 26, 2009
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