Chavez vs. Taylor - Commentating sucks!

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I'm three rounds in and they scored every round for Taylor whereas I have it 2-1 Chavez. He landed a lot of right hand leads in the round three, and Taylor was mostly shoe shining - not landing anything significant. I can see someone having it 2-1 Taylor, but no way did Chavez lose the second round. He hit Taylor with about 4-5 consecutive hard shots to close the round, and nothing was landed by either guy of any significance before then. They don't say a bloody word when Chavez is landing his shots. What is going on here?

    Half way through round three and Chavez has landed a good straight right and a double left hook, but the commentary team are too busy talking to notice. I'm not making a case for Chavez being ahead on the cards at round 12, but he's getting good work done that is going completely unnoticed. That much isn't debatable.

    Update:

    Round 1: 10-9 Taylor
    Round 2: 10-9 Chavez
    Round 3: 10-9 Taylor
    Round 4: 10-9 Taylor
    Round 5: 10-9 Taylor
    Round 6: 10-9 Taylor
    Round 7: 10-9 Taylor
    Round 8: 10-9 Taylor
    round 9: 10-9 Chavez
    round 0: 10-9 Chavez
    Round 11: 10-9 Taylor
    Round 12: 10-8 Chavez

    Had the fight not been stopped, I had Taylor up by 3. I re-watched round 3 and Taylor won that round.
     
  2. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Watch the start of Pea-Chavez for the reverse.
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I appreciate that, but I'm not watching that fight or discussing that fight. I'm talking about Taylor vs Chavez and I'm unimpressed with the commentary teams inability to watch what the hell is going on. I have it even after four rounds, and although Taylor may well go onto dominate the whole fight, Lederman has this 4-0. I can't agree with that. I wouldn't mind so much if they gave the rounds to Taylor, but still acknowledge Chavez's accurate short shots inside. They can't even manage that.

    Round 5 was a good competitive round with Taylor getting the more shots in. Still, the commentary team don't say a god damn thing about Chavez landing his hard shots.
     
  4. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    God damn, Round 10 was epic! Chavez got that round but both goes were throwing a lot of mean shots.
     
  5. BENNY BLANCO

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    Your watching the fight through hindsight because you know the shots Chavez are landing took effect on Taylor, they were watching it live in person so they couldn't know that yet.
     
  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Non-factor. The commentators are getting paid to call the action. They didn't call any action that was being dished out by Chavez, and was giving rounds to Taylor that Chavez won. To be exact, round 2, and round 11. They went silent when the knockdown came. Usually Lampley would be like, "OH MY GOD". They all seemed upset to me. Agenda driven non-sense.
     
  7. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was that the commentary by "Bob Sheridon" i.e another round for Taylor!! another round for Taylor!! He never mentioned Chavez once, but the ending was lively DOWN GOES TAYLOR!! HE'S UP!! THE COUNT IS? HE'S STOPPED IT!! i'll have to watch it again to check, I was at the fight & it was hard to score as being there always is, but i've never got the scoring the same ever, chavez actually blocked a lot of Taylors work.
     
  8. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    You were at the fight? What were your thoughts on everything at the end of it? Were you pissed off, did you feel that Taylor was way ahead on the cards? On my card, the fight was only a one point difference after the 10-8 round in the 12th so a draw was every bit conceivably in my view. That said, Meldrick should have been allowed to carry on. The commentary I'm referring to is Lampley, Merchant, and Leonard.
     
  9. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The atmosphere was incredible, no i was'nt pissed off just ****IN RELIEVED:lol: my yank cousin ****ed off & left me as he was convinced we'd get battered so he missed the end:lol::lol:, the noise was ****in incredible, there's goosebumps on my arms as i type this, i just lept up screaming along with all the mex's.

    I remember the right hand that hit Taylor about 30 seconds from the end, Kerrrrumppper, thats how it sounded, then mayhem as everyone was screaming, then bang DOWN GOES TAYLOR, everyone's going beserk, i see Taylor get up, then i see Chavez raising his hands, could'nt believe it, did'nt know what was going on, the ballroom was just a ****in frenzy, unbelievable night, never ever forget the experiance, absolute ****in mayhem, thank god chavez won, i'll tell yer now, the mex's there were some of the meanest in yer face lookin ****ers i've ever encountered, why i started sqeakin in a speedy gonzalez accent i don't know?:lol:

    It looked like Taylor was on top but hard to study a fight live as so much is going on around you, i think i had Taylor up by 3/4 if i recall but that was way off really once i'd watched it on tape, it's always different, i'll watch it again tomorrow & we'll compare cards, ****IN GLORY DAYS & well worth the 18 hour nightmare flight over:deal
     
  10. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Appears you have Taylor up by 3 not 1.
     
  11. mochabuzz

    mochabuzz Active Member Full Member

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    :smoke
     
  12. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For what it's worth, I've never heard a really good call of that fight. I've heard at least parts of 3 different calls and none of them really seemed to get what was going on. Still, the HBO cast was really pretty lacking. You'd hear more noise if you dropped a pin than you would from the HBO crew when Chavez was landing punches.

    Usually I think that group does a decent enough call, but they were completely out to lunch in Chavez-Taylor.
     
  13. Thread Stealer

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    Lampley was on Meldrick's dick like he would later be on the dick of another Taylor about a decade and a half later.

    All throughout the fight, most noteworthy saying "Chavez on the verge of going down" in either the 9th or 10th. He didn't look hurt at all.

    This wasn't unnoticed among fans at the time though.

    I remember letters in magazines, either KO, The Ring, or Boxing Illustrated, with fans complaining about how biased the HBO commentary was.
     
  14. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Lampley probably had Haugen leading Chavez going into the 5th of their fight.
     
  15. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    The Chavez-Taylor fight was the beggining of many biased calls to come for the HBO boxing team.

    .......years later, Jim Lampley admitted to having sat down and rewatched the replay because so many fans were coming to him and telling him how biased he and the HBO team called the fight......

    ......Lampley admitted that he was lacking in his effort to see and give Chavez credit for shots that would later have Meldrick debilitated.
    .....furthermore Lampley said, "I still scored the fight for Taylor, but it was alot closer than how we depicted it on the air."
    ......which takes me to how Lampley and Co. criticized Lou Duva for not telling Meldrick Taylor to just survive the last rounds.....Lou Duva was seeing a close fight, and you dont tell your fighter to stop fighting and pack it in when a fights competitive.


    Having admitted that their call was lacking in fairness, sadly, it seems Lampley and Co. did'nt learn a damn thing about leaving their biases at the door when calling a fight.:-(