Chavez/Whitaker: October 1988

I know this is tired territory, but I was scoring like a judge, round for round. I was very excited because it was the first fight I made a vacation out of, flew there and built the whole trip around a fight.

So, my contention remains, if the fight were scored as one 36 minute round, PW won. But it was 12 mostly middling rounds- each weighted as an equal share of a whole - with a good deal where JCC was being the boss and PW was reling on posing for the judges. However, the rounds PW won, he won quite a bit more emphatically than JCC won any round, but not emphatically enough to grant a 10-8. Bottomline, at the end of 12, I had PW ahead by 1 point. Thus, a draw didn't seem some great shock. And I had some great seats. You can even see me on the tape at times.

 

To set up an all-Mexican showdown, which was a bigger ticket seller back then. Whitaker could barely draws flies to a bucket of **** at the best of times.

 

Yes, I agree that on their best nights, Whitaker wins, mainly due to styles. But this was prime Chavez vs a Whitaker that still lacked great experience (and question marks about his chin).

 

Yeah. I was giving my opinion based on prime v prime at lightweight, and not the specific questioned origianlly asked, October 1988.

 

Tough call at this stage. By '88 Chavez was at the peak of his powers, Whitaker wasn't quite there, yet.

Still, I'd be inclined to give Pea the slight edge. Chavez would pressurize 'till the very end, but loses a close, controversial SD. (7-5)

 

But that's not the question. That's like when KO did 1977 vs 1987 and it was Ali vs Tyson. They did Ali on points just because they thought he'd win at their respective bests, rather that those exact years. It was kind of a "well, we don't want people to think that we think Tyson beats Ali so we better go with Ali". That's what you're doing here.

1988: I think Chavez is too experienced
Best Night: Whitaker UD.

:good

 

Whitaker wins twice on Sunday.

 

Not many threads get followed up with awnsers to the specific question heading the thread all the time, as some people drift away ever so slightly. Like myself.

Its a tougher fight for Whitaker, but still think he could have edged it. Experience with Chavez, as you correctly pointed out.

Never asked you, who's that on the drums?

 

It's Bonzo (Led Zep). :good

 

Very difficult choice. Pee didn't have the same upper body strength at lightweight, and Chavez was pretty much prime then.

Still, Whitaker was a phenom at lightweight and as close to unbeatable at the weight as anyone I can think of.

I pick Whitaker by close decision.

 

Ginger Baker wasn't bad on the drums either. I'm sure he played them in Zaire. :rasta

 

This is real close to the way I see it, except that best night for both would be pick em for me. The Chavez of the Rosario fight was wicked.

 

During Chavez's prime at Lightweight?
I gotta give JCC the edge here mates. Chavez was well removed from his best at welter and we all know that his record fighting at welter is nothing to brag about. I mean Whitaker and Chavez fought to a draw at this weight.

JCC by a very close decision.

 

It wasn't a draw, but it wasn't a schooling, either. You're exaggerating.

 

One fighter wins 8 or 9 rounds clearly, but all fought competitively.

Another fighter could easily win the same amount of rounds convincingly, domintating over the 3 minutes beyond dispute. Obviously not to the point to which each round being scored 10-8, but still wins them easily.

Whats your criteria for a schooling?.

Whitaker outboxed Chavez, and its not as if you could even argue that Chavez landed the harder blows, which is a scenario that many people dispute on who was effective and who wasn't when it comes to controverisal decisions. Whitaker landed the cleaner power punches.