Chavez/Whitaker: October 1988

Chavez could never deal with the fighters from camp Duva

 

Right, he proved this twice against Taylor.

 

Holmes v Cooney. Chavez was an aging ring warrior who went in against a master boxer at the top of his game and came up short. Whitaker won the fight, but he didn't take Chavez to school. Holmes, on the other hand, took Cooney to school.

 

I disagree enormously Sweet Pea, I believe the fight was much closer than what your twisted perception of reality will allow you to see. I wouldn't mind claims of Whitaker winning 7-5, but to call it a schooling and an embarrassment on Chavez's behalf is just plain exaggeration and dumb, but then again I am dealing with a nuthugger.

I have stated my opinion and just like Seamus, you won't change this mind.

 

It should be in the dictonary for Schooling.

 

Because only then could you point to a definition of schooling that supports your view. Unfortunately for you, the definition of schooling most people use doesn't cover the facts of the Chavez-Whitaker case. But I don't mean to stop a dreamer, so dream on.

 

Whitaker clearly won the fight no matter how I scored it. Schooling without winning every minute of ever round.

 

Just say that you would have liked it to have been a schooling.

One of our very own (Seamus) was there at ringside and scoring.
He described the fight pretty well.
......and he is absolutely correct, the fight was far from a schooling.
In fact it was a draw!

 

You have to be the most die hard Caavez fan or the bigest hater of Whitker to not see that Whatiker domanated Chavez. The only thing Whitaker didn't do was KO Chavez.

 

Where the hell have you people been......
.....usually its just me arguing with the whole classic section that this fight was far from a schooling and that the judges actually got it right.

The thing about Whitaker in this fight is that he preoccupied most of his time and rounds purely on defense and finding ways to turn the match into anything other than a boxing match.
In other words, Whitaker played the stalling game with a great many of the rounds.......you look throughout history and he should have known better, judges rarely reward a fighter who stalls a boxing match!!!

 

You're on to something, and I agree with you.

I think alot of the anomosity toward Chavez may have carried over because of the controversy that happened with Meldrick Taylor (Whitaker's stablemate)

There are people in this forum that hate Chavez to this very day, because he knocked out Meldrick Taylor with only seconds to go in the fight.
That can carry over to reasonable thinking and scoring when it comes to scoring a close fight involving Chavez.
These same people would point out that Frankie Randall schooled and kicked his ass in both fights, when in fact both fights were competitively fought close fights.

To say that Chavez lost these fights close and competitively in one thing, but the anger and hate overrides logic, and any fight that is close involving Chavez, now becomes a schooling on the part of his opponent.

So definitely yes, I think you touched on something that is so true SL!

 

They didn't 'really'. One of the judges, Vann I think, took a point away from Whitaker for a low blow despite the ref not instucting them to take it away. What this says to me is that Vann may have 'doctored' his card to achieve a Don King 'draw'.

 

I could be wrong, but I think you may be confusing that action you described by the judge with another fight.

I dont remember a stink being brought up over a judge taking it upon himself to deduct a point for low blows.

Can anybody point us in the direction of a link where an official round by round Chavez-Whitaker scorecard is posted??????

 

This would be an interesting affair, but I stil think Whitaker wins this although the physical contests on the inside, I might favor Chavez, I don't see Chavez doing enough to cut off the ring while Whitaker's fighting off the backfoot. Also, Taylor-Chavez was competitive, Whitaker-Chavez WAS a schooling IMO. Chavez even looked defeated towards the end as he knew surely he couldn't turn around his situation.

 

Whitaker by UD. Chavez may give a better account of himself here than at WW, but Pernell is just wrong for him.