Chavez-Whitaker why no rematch?

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  1. Nigel_Benn

    Nigel_Benn Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Its one of the most popular fights in terms of the amount of the threads it gets on here but heres one i never see and after watching the fight its a question that bugs me WHY NO REMATCH!!!!
     
  2. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Chavez went back to 140 and lost 4 months later.
     
  3. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yeah, Chavez just wasn't a Welterweight, which is where Whitaker finished out his career.
     
  4. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chavez knew he was very lucky to get a draw.
     
  5. Wilhelm

    Wilhelm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    All of the above.
     
  6. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If the result was the proper one, as in, a UD for Whitaker with scores like 118-110, 118-111, 117-111 - would there have ever been the need?

    Whitaker proved to me he was the superior fighter.
     
  7. Seven Chance

    Seven Chance Augustus Style Journeyman Full Member

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    Chavez knew he would never beat Pernell.
     
  8. nickfoxx

    nickfoxx On The Nod Full Member

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    also the first fight was already a few years too late, there was a lot of talk that whitaker was going to MOVE UP to 140 and fight chavez after camacho (who was initially slated to fight chavez) lost to haugen... this was the same night pernell beat anthony baby jones, this must've been like two years before they actually fought

    whitaker was supposed to fight chavez before meldrick taylor, and maybe they should've as that might've completely changed meldrick's career

    btw even as a huge sweet pea fan, having a score like 118-110 or 117-111 is ridiculous... it was a close fight with a lot of close rounds that could've gone either way depending on how you interpreted chavez's aggression
     
  9. Sweet Pea

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    Coming forward, getting tagged repeatedly and missing your own, often lunging swings doesn't bode well for someone hoping to get the verdict based on "effective aggression". 117-111(9 rounds to 3) is a fine score, and the correct one in my book. No closer than 8-4 certainly.
     
  10. dave82

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    I beg to differ. Chavez aggression consisted of coming foward, whitaker landing combos, PW outworking him in the inside, and Chavez missing a lot of shots. 117-111 was the score i had for PW.
     
  11. errsta

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    147 just wasn't happening for JCC.

    The way I scored the fight, there was only 3-4 clear cut rounds. Those all went to whitaker. I don't think there was any round that Chavez was the clear cut winner. In fact, what surprised me most during the fight was that when there was an exchange, Whitaker would sometimes get the better of it. The 8-9 remaining rounds were extremely susceptible to subjective scoring. It is no surprise that this scenario is skewed to the favor of the aggressor.

    If scoring even rounds was not so frowned upon, it would have definitely served Whitaker well in this fight...hell, in his career.

    A friend of mine who is a HUGE Whitaker fan attended the fight and scored it a draw. I think that is weird.
     
  12. errsta

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    I agree. The fight was in no way a one sided affair (a la first 9 rounds of Taylor-Chavez). This fight has been misinterpreted over time as a Whitaker shutout when it was nothing of the sort.
     
  13. Sweet Pea

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    Whitaker performed better against Chavez than Taylor did, that much can't be denied.

    Whitaker won about 9 rounds to 3 on mine and most others cards, didn't allow Chavez to get much going and was hardly damaged at all after the fight. Taylor was up about 8 rounds to 3(possibly 7-4) by the time the 12th round came about and had taken far more punishment up to that point, and the rest is history.

    Whitaker/Chavez was more one-sided than Chavez/Taylor IMO, easily.
     
  14. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I had it 118-110 for Pea, there simply was no need for a rematch, despite the crooked judges scorecards.
     
  15. dave82

    dave82 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And I have a friend who was a chavez fan and he scored it 116-112 for Whitaker.