Chepo Reynoso: “Golovkin is a donkey. He doesn’t know how to box.”

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  1. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    See now you are starting to play fair, just keep it up or I will forum spank you again in front of the others.
     
  2. ellerbe

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    My b
     
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  3. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If he’s a donkey and can’t box than why did he beat your boy?

    That comment can be spun around so quick as a comeback. That’s why it’s a joke of a comment.
     
  4. shadow111

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    This is an area that I agree with you on ellerbe. Round 3 was one of Canelo's most dominant and clear rounds. That's a strong statement for you to say that there's literally no possible way to give GGG round 3, but I tend to agree with you. Yet surprisingly though, only Byrd recognized this and gave the 3rd round to Canelo. The other two judges gave the round to GGG. If I'm not mistaken I think that Harold Lederman gave that round to Canelo, but you had two judges (the two critical judges who determined who won or lost - if GGG didn't get round 3 on those two judges cards he would have lost) give the round to GGG, something that you claim "there's literally no possible way" to do. Well two judges did it and they scored that round 3 for GGG, which is why the result was a draw instead of a Canelo win.

    So given that we disagree with rorschach51 about round 3 and me and rorschach51 disagree with you about round 11, and you disagree with rorschach51 about round 10, well that's a lot of disagreements over the key rounds of the first fight. When you have so many hotly debated rounds, what we have here is a lot of posters you included that like to argue that there's only one way to score rounds like 3, 10 and 11. Yet as we've seen a lot of fans continue to disagree over these rounds and feel very strongly about how those rounds should be scored. So the next step would be to explain what caused you to score that round for the fighter you scored it to, what each fighter did in the round to win it in your opinion.

    Canelo did beat Lara, but I wouldn't say it was all that clear. I thought it was pretty damn close and it can be debated either way.
     
  5. ellerbe

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    Lara beat Canelo. Sorry it was a pretty clear win. Lara beat Canelo more clearly than GGG beat him. 8-4 Lara.

    What rorschach51 scored rounds is irrelevant. Using that as an example is extremely weak. 11 was a clear GGG round and 3 was a clear Canelo round. I have no bias towards any fighter. If anything I've spent far more time criticizing GGG than Canelo. By the way, it's possible for you to convince me a draw is a plausible scorecard, but going to round 11 isn't going to do it. Do what Isal did for round 11 on rounds I gave to GGG and perhaps my mind will change.
     
  6. latineg

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    See that’s more like it ellerbe.

    Keep this up and I will stop calling you the agenda weasel in no time.
     
  7. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lol my favorite stalker.
     
  8. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Golovkin destroys Lara


    Period
     
  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Would have been a good fight in their prime. Golovkin had issues hitting Canelo. Lara is even more elusive!
     
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  10. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Golovkin would have fought lara differently. And Lara doesn’t have Canelo’s chin. Also Golovkin was older and slower when he beat Canelo the first time.

    A prime Golovkin knocks out Ginger and Lara in the same night. And move up and beat Kovalev and Groves as well.

    You know what, screw it, Golovkin is the closest thing to Jesus Christ that we will have in this world.
     
  11. ellerbe

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    What about Loma?
     
  12. mirkofilipovic

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    One of his disciples maybe :elboinas:
     
  13. latineg

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    He threatens you.

    But not as much as he did yesterday, good job ellerbe.
     
  14. shadow111

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    That's an intreresting theory. As someone who doesn't put people down for disagreeing on how they score fights, I'm not going to fight you on the Lara fight. I thought Canelo won, not clearly though. But you having Lara winning is acceptable to me. How did you score Canelo Trout? I thought Canelo beat Trout more clearly than he beat Lara. There was the knockdown too, but I didn't like the open scoring which affected the last 4 rounds.

    It just goes to show how many fans still disagree on these rounds, rounds that you think are clear. But forget about rorschach51 for a moment and lets take a look at how the official judges scored those rounds.

    The two key judges that determined who won both scored Round 3 for GGG. (ridiculous right) And with you having Round 11 as a Clear GGG round, all 3 judges gave that to Canelo.

    The only judge who saw what you (and I) saw in Round 3 was Byrd.
     
  15. ellerbe

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    Canelo clearly beat Trout in a close fight. I never understood the Trout got robbed theory. Lara on the other hand beat Canelo pretty clearly. I'm sure Canelo fans look at the GGG fight and say hey those punches didn't land in slow-mo, and even I went back and saw that some punches I thought landed, didn't land. On both sides though. But for the Lara fight, there are so many countless shots landed on the elbow and the back, which Canelo fans scored as clean body punches. That's the only way you could score it for Canelo, make an exception and score elbow/back shots.

    Watching 11 and 3 in slow-mo there's no way 11 could go to Canelo and 3 could go to GGG. Judges don't have that luxury. Funny enough I scored it right the first time without slow-mo. Just shows I'm good at scoring fights.