Chepo Reynoso: “Golovkin is a donkey. He doesn’t know how to box.”

116-112 same as Bleacher Report, Bad Left Hook, The Guardian, Sergio Martinez, USA Today Sports, Fansided, Steve Bunce, The Telegraph, The Independent, MMA Fighting, Al Bernstein, etc,.

Most ringside scorers had Whitaker vs Chavez 117-111, as did more then a couple for this fight (GGG vs Canelo) including The Mirror, Bloody Elbow, CBS Sports, SportsWeb, Teddy Atlas etc,.

Canelo won the first 2 rounds, and the last 2 rounds. That's it.

 

You gave GGG rounds 3-10.

Surely you can accept the argument that Canelo took rounds 3 and 10. After all Canelo landed the harder punches more consistently in those rounds. Canelo outlanded Golovkin in power punches, and despite many of Golovkin's jabs being measuring jabs, Golovkin landed only two more punches in round 3 than Canelo which were jabs.

So in round three Golovkin landed 5 more jabs than Canelo, but Canelo landed 3 more power punches. 2 jabs more doesn't win you a round imo when the other guy lands three more power punches, and the cleaner punches with a higher connect percentage.

Round 10 Golovkin got credit for 12 jabs, none which were devastating jabs, to Canelo's 3 jabs.

But in the power punche department Canelo landed 4 more punches than Golovkin. The difference being 5 punches which were fairly ineffective jabs considering Canelo kept outslugging GGG.

And After all that it was Canelo who CLEARLY landed the better harder cleaner punches in that round.

While I can accept you giving GGG those rounds, there is stronger case for Canelo winning those rounds.

 

He sure put on a classic for a guy facing a donkey so that is a weird statement

 

Nah
Big Red did very well that night as a matter of fact I would say his best planned out fight ever
Used movement, set the pace with movement and even invited GGG into the ropes yet he declined
Canelo is not going to push szhit but a Turd
He will not force the action as he is a counter puncher so he waits like a predator for his opponent to move in and unload.
Still GGG won the first fight 115-113

 

GGG clearly beat Danny J bro
Omit the off balance KD but for FS put it down as an official 10/8 round and you will se

 

I can't tell you how many times I've heard this comparison, and it astounds me every time somebody tries to make this argument. It is patently absurd to argue or believe that Whitaker Chavez was even remotely as close or difficult to score as Canelo GGG. There are many stark differences between the two fights that make what you're arguing invalid. In Whitaker Chavez, Chavez didn't come out and completely outbox Whitaker in the first 4 rounds like Canelo did to GGG. Chavez didn't land the kind of eye catching uppercuts and big right hands on Whitaker that Canelo landed on GGG. Chavez was older than Whitaker and was falling out of his prime by the time he fought Whitaker, whereas Canelo is significantly younger than GGG and still well in his prime.

When you look at these important differences, Chavez Whitaker isn't even remotely comparable to Canelo GGG. The consensus was that Whitaker won that fight clearly but got robbed with two judges scoring it a draw. The consensus with Canelo GGG was that it was a very close fight and if you've noticed, even those that say they had GGG winning, like Liam Smith, make it clear that Canelo is the better boxers or admits that there were some tough rounds to score and as a result were OK with the draw, or things of that nature. People weren't saying those kind of things about Whitaker Chavez. So it's a completely different consensus, even though the vast majority may have had GGG winning, it was not the kind of a win that the vast majority had Whitaker winning vs Chavez. (a win where there was a clear winner, where there was a robbery) Nobody's going on camera and saying Canelo GGG is like Whitaker Chavez, because saying that would be ridiculous. I don't know how any real boxing fan can truly believe this. We know how one sided Whitaker Chavez was at times compared to Canelo GGG which remained back and forth throughout.

 

I just did, there is a comparison, both guys considered the house/money fighter should have lost but were gifted draws. 116-112 GGG 117-111 Whitaker are clear convincing scores the both, but they ended up drawing.

Not to mention the consensus says GGG won, it doesn't matter if it was close in rounds, if you win 7 rounds you win the ****ing fight, not draw or loss just because the other guy made it close by winning 4 (on my card) or 5 rounds.

 

You're an idiot.

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, nevermind a Drugnelo victory.

 

You're delusional if you think that Whitaker Chavez was comparable to Canelo GGG. Pretty much everybody agrees that Whitaker won that fight clearly but was robbed. The vast majority see GGG Canelo as it was which is a fight that could go either way, not a robbery. It is only a number of GGG fans that see the fight as a robbery. Any self respecting reasonable boxing fan know it was as close fight and way more debatable as to who won than Whitaker Chavez.

 

I don't know where you're getting scores of 116-112 GGG and 117-111 Whitaker. The judge that scored for them had it 115-113. The only clear score from a judge in either fight was a wide clear, convincing score of 118-110 Canelo.

Of course it matters how close the consensus thought it was, and how many people (unlike with Whitaker Chavez) stated that they recognized how close of a fight it was.

The consensus having GGG winning is one thing, whether the consensus thought it was a clear win or was a robbery is another, and GGG fans routinely get stuck on this disctinction. For it to be like Whitaker Chavez, it wouldn't have the people who said GGG won saying "but Canelo was the better boxer" "there were some close rounds that I gave to GGG but could have went the other way" "I was OK with the draw" etc etc etc.

No one came out saying those kinds of things about Whitaker Chavez because it was a much clearer victory for Whitaker over Chavez than it was for either GGG or Canelo last September.

Whitaker Chavez was seen a consensus robbery. Canelo GGG was seen as a consensus could-go-either-way fight that majority says that they scored it for GGG. (while pointing out how close it was and saying things like how impressed they were of Canelo)

 

GGG made Canelo miss most of his punches.

 

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Are you a complete dribbler all the time or just about Canelo.

Pundits (who live and breathe boxing) , in the majority, gave the fight to GGG.

You must know more about boxing than professional fighters/trainers/commentators whose life is invested into the sport. Even alot of mexican pro's gave it to GGG.

 

The number of mexicans who gave it to GGG are a drop in the bucket compared to the vast majority of mexicans who gave it to Canelo.

 

If you vote against your country superstar....... i don't need to say more than that.