Chepo Reynoso: “Golovkin is a donkey. He doesn’t know how to box.”

A majority had it for GGG, that means a minority had it for Canelo.

 

How did you score it? And what rounds. Maybe you can change my mind.

 

I scored it 7-5 for Canelo, but I can score it 6-6 for GGG, and I can accept 7-5 for GGG as well.

Let me start by asking you what rounds you gave to each fighter.

 

Why? You're by far in the minority that had it for Canelo. I don't need to be convincing anyone. I want to hear your side, re-watch those rounds and see if you're right or not.

But my rounds are in the RBR I don't remember it off the top of my head and I cbf digging it up. Just go look it up.

 

If we're talking about knowing wtf you are doing, the Reynoso's had better shut their traps considering their boy got popped twice for Clen which is a mountain of irony considering they are career meat butchers.

 

Gave “IT” to Canelo
Like gave it to him up the aze?

 

Lol this has to be post of the day.
It’s well worth listening to Canelos corner in the fight,puts paid to those who claim Canelo put himself on the ropes as they’re shouting at him to get in the centre of the ring.
From hearing that I don’t think the plan was to run but there’s a left hook that Canelo took and from there he wasn’t happy to trade.

 

Based on your score card I'll show you why at the very least Canelo deserved a draw.

I felt Canelo won rounds 1-3 and 10-12 very clear, and I also thought he won round 4 but it was a bit closer.

You felt that round 1 was a draw. I agree with round 2 and 3. I won't try to convince you, I'll simply post what I saw with an emphasis on round 11 since you had round even, and based on stats and the 4 elements of scoring a fight I feel Canelo won it and I'm sure you can agree with it.

RD 1.

-In round 1, compubox gave Canelo credit for 10 punches landed, and gave GGG credit for 15 punches landed.

Canelo dictated the tempo of the fight in round 1. GGG was flicking a timid jab, getting credit for 13 jabs landed, none which were impressive, I believe we can agree. They were more of measuring jabs as GGG seemed to be trying to get his timing down and perhaps studying Canelo, or maybe he was befuddled by a boxer like Canelo considering he had never fought a fighter as talented and versatile as him making him miss 75% of his power punches in this first round.

In round 1 Canelo landed 50% of his power punches to Golovkin's 25%. Canelo also on top of landing more power punches he landed at a higher connect rate, landed the harder cleaner punches. In other words, he used better defense to evade GGG's power punches, used better ring generalship as he was still fighting at his pace, and was more effective with his aggression since power punches count more than jabs, especially when they are cleaner and harder.

RD 11.

-In round 11 compubox gave Canelo credit for 13 punches landed and gave GGG credit for 17 punches landed. According to compubox Canelo landed 1 more power punch, and GGG landed 5 more jabs.

This is what I saw after viewing it just now as far as punches landed. Canelo landed nearly 59% of his power punches to GGG's 30%. That right there shows us who was better at evading the punches that count. We can factor in jabs, but jabs are sometimes harder to score because most jabs graze, or don't even land and fighetrs may still get credit depending on the angle they are in while throwing the punches.

Now that it has been established that Canelo won in defense in round 11 I'm only going to focus on punches landed.

2:50 Canelo lands a straight right hand
2:40 GGG lands a jab
2:33 GGG lands a jab
2:21 Canelo lands a strong left hook to the body
2:13 GGG lands a short overhand right
2:03 Canelo lands a short left
1:55 GGG thows an uppercut grazing Canelo as he moves with it
1:31 Canelo lands a right hook counter to the body
1:27 BOTH fighters exchange punches and both land
1:25 GGG lands a nice jab
1:21 Canelo lands a short right
1:16 Canelo lands a beautiful 3 punch combo
1:12 Canelo lands a jab to the body
1:09 GGG lands a jab
1:09 Canelo counters with a lefthook
0:55 GGG lands a small lefthook
0:45 GGG lands a jab
0:34 GGG lands a right
0:25 Canelo lands an uppercut that send GGG back
0:16 GGG appears to have landed an uppercut
0:15 Canelo lands a 1-2 to the body

I definitely did not see GGG land 17 punches. Canelo landed the harder cleaner punches. He had Golovkin missing wildly, and took less damage in that round.

Whether you feel that GGG won those 2 rounds, an argument can easily be made that Canelo won them.

Rd11

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I'll watch 11 again when I get a chance. By the way I didn't take compubox in count at all when i scored the round.

 

So I briefly watched the first min and I feel like you're not counting GGG's shots. I'm assuming you're counting all of canelo's so I'm not even looking to see if you missed them.

So at 2:16 GGG lands a jab and a straight right to the side of Canelo's head. 1:35 GGG also lands a jab. You seem to be missing a lot of shots.

2:42 looks like a right hand lands too on the side, not super clean or effective though. And I don't see anything landed by Canelo at 2:03. I saw GGG POSSIBLY landing a jab but I can't see due to the angle. Also the 1:31 punch to the body is not clear at all. Sorry but there's no way you can call that a not right hook counter. It looks like it lands on GGG's arm. At 1:16 Canelo does not land a 3 punch combo. He throws a 3 punch combo but lands 2, the upper cut and the straight. Good clean shots though. 1:04 GGG lands a jab.

By the way you gave Canelo 1 due to ring generalship. GGG clearly was the ring general in round 11. I think we should score based on consistency.

Here's a problem too. The shot GGG landed at 34 was one of the punches landed between the 2 of them that round. You label it just as a "right hand" lol. At 0:29 GGG lands a nice clean jab too. Oh and the so called "uppercut" did not send GGG back, Canelo pushed off him. Oh you missed a pretty clean left hook at 0:15 too after the uppercut. GGG lands an overhand right at 0:11. Canelo and GGG both land a jab at the end of the round. I'm watching this all in slow-mo by the way. This is clearly a GGG round, not even debatable. Pick another round.

 

So here's how I saw it. Note I'm only looking for shots GGG missed, since I assume you're giving Canelo everything and extra.

2:50 Canelo lands a straight right hand
2:42 GGG lands straight(not so clean and debatable)
2:40 GGG lands a jab
2:33 GGG lands a jab
2:21 Canelo lands a strong left hook to the body
2:16 GGG clearly lands a jab and a straight(not debatable, re-watch it in 0.25)
2:13 GGG lands a short overhand right
1:55 GGG thows an uppercut grazing Canelo as he moves with it
1:31 Canelo possibly lands a right to the body(unclear due to angle)
1:27 BOTH fighters exchange punches and both land
1:25 GGG lands a nice jab
1:21 Canelo lands a short right
1:16 Canelo lands 2 punches out of a 3punch combo
1:12 Canelo lands a jab to the body
1:09 GGG lands a straight(Not so clear)
1:09 Canelo counters with a lefthook(Not so clear)
1:04 GGG lands a jab
0:55 GGG lands a small lefthook
0:45 GGG lands a jab
0:34 GGG lands a right(very clean)
0:29 GGG lands a clean jab
0:25 Canelo lands an uppercut
0:16 GGG lands an uppercut
0:15 GGG lands a clean left hook(sorry time isn't exact look between (0:10-0:15)
0:15 Canelo lands a 1-2 to the body
0:11 GGG lands a clear overhand right
Both land jabs at the end.

 

I know I probably missed punches for each fighter and maybe I scored punches for each fighter that were probably blocked or slipped. Some angles did not give a good visual.

I also didn't focus a lot on flicks or measuring jabs since they don't do much damage and are thrown moreso to disrupt an opponent's rythm or to measure distance.

What I wanted to convey was that many rounds were close, and they can be argued for either fighter. Canelo landed the better body punches and better head shots in round 11. GGG didn't do terribly bad and he kept his jab up, but honestly his jabs were very effective for the most part. Canelo risked more and landed more meaningful shots.

Rd 11 for Canelo.

 

No way RD 11 could go to Canelo it was clear GGG. Round 1 yeah I can definitely see you giving it to Canelo. You missed at least 3 very clean shots by GGG(not including jabs), and you credited Canelo for shots that were not clear. You didn't do it for both fighters, you only did it for Canelo.