Chin isn't the same as heart

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    The two seem to get equated here alot. But someone can have the heart of a lion and have a glass chin and vice versa. The human body can only take so much punishment. Eventually, if Foreman would have been allowed to keep pounding Frazier, Frazier would have stayed down. It wouldn't mean that he didn't have heart, just that he physically couldn't take anymore.

    I think Norton had heart, he just couldn't take Shavers punches. I think Spink had heart, he just couldn't take top shelf heavyweight power when caught cold.
     
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    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Patterson is a perfect example. Always tried to get up. Just couldn’t sometimes
     
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    How many alts DO you have, Mark?
     
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    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    He got up all but twice. "SOMETIMES" isn't accurate here.
     
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    Amir khan is the perfect example of incredible heart with a bad chin. Too brave for his own good. With his talent and speed, if he worked on actual defense he could have been an all time great.

    David Price is another.

    Adrian Broner has a great chin but no heart at all.
     
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  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Yeah you're right.
     
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  9. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    The reverse of this is Oliver McCall, granite chin, weak heart

    Oh Tommy Morrison had a surprising amount of heart
     
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  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    In other news: Bullocks are not brains.

    The more you know.
     
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  11. JohnThomas1

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    Hearns is a prime example of a big heart but average durability. He actually, somehow, beat the count against Hagler. He looked no chance of rising. Sure he was in no condition to continue but he certainly tried his utmost too. He also somehow beat the count against Barkley against all odds. He could barely stand and the fight could have been stopped then and there tho it was OK Steele gave let him have one more go.

    He was hurt in multiple fights against the likes of Kinchen, Roldan, SRL II among others but hung on for dear life, clutching, grabbing, leaning on and the like to keep himself in the fight. He was in big trouble against Roldan not long before he unloaded a terrific right hand to face plant him.

    He also took on anyone and was desperate for fast rematches every time he was beaten.
     
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  12. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well..........between you, Mark, and Eye of Tim at least threads get started here. Everything is a tradeoff.
     
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  13. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True.

    It's optimal to have both
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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  15. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great post

    Lewis is another example.
     
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