Chin Talk : Could These Guys Have Survived Pac's Left Hand That Drove Ricky To Cola?

Beenie · Sep 25, 2010

san rafael said: ↑

Only at this point. I honestly believe Shane could have taken everything he gave Margarito on his feet. Shane Mosley is a cross between an armadillo and a
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. He's unknockoutable.
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Nice

However such a distinction should only be reserved for likes of a one Gerry Penalosa. :deal

Salty Dog · Sep 25, 2010

san rafael said: ↑

Man, I've said it before I'll say it again. I've seen Pacquiao hit **** LIVE. There is no ****ing way anybody but Shane Mosley could survive that shot and I still think Shane would hit the canvass. He would get up though. Everybody else, even Margarito, would be DOA. Hatton bunny hopped right into that thing. Manny launched. This is a sick question anyway. Pacquiao's power is nothing to chat about. Not at this point. Like I said; if all I had was some TV viewing to base this on I might have a different answer. I've felt the shockwaves of Manny's punches from the parking lot outside Wild Card. The 405 shakes when he unloads.
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exaggerate much?

Scar · Sep 25, 2010

Beenie said: ↑

Shane, a better beard than T-Marg, you think? :think

:yep
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Is that an honest question or are you trying to look foolish?

Mosley took punches from DLH(x2), Forrest(x2), Mayorga, Margaritolol, Vargas(x2), Wright(x2), Mayweather, R.Marquez, Cotto and whoever else I'm missing.

Margarito took punches from Cotto, Williams and yeah, Cintron(x2).

ripcity · Sep 25, 2010

Floyd Yes
Shane Yes
Cotto No (ko'd 12)
Berto Yes
Maidana No
Khan No
Margarito No
Martinez Yes
Tall Paul Yes
Alexander Yes
Bradley Yes

Leon · Sep 25, 2010

Scar said: ↑

This is hard to answer because a lot of you newbies have no idea what positioning is in boxing. Most of the guys mentioned there don't position themselves the way Hatton did when they land that type of shot, Hatton basically did his usual "leap" and went in to take the punch in double force. What's funnier is that Pacquiao timed him for the same punch seconds before he did so again and somehow he missed, Hatton didn't care to take notes and continued to do his thing. When I say "his thing" it means, his type/style of fighting. I don't see Mayweather, Cotto, Martinez or others mentioned do that kind of jump when they throw the same punch Hatton was aiming for so it's hard to tell, Mayweather leans back often, Hatton doesn't and he has taken a shot leaning back, so that's a simple example of what positioning can look like as it differs from one fighter to another. Not all stances are exactly the same, different fighters treat their stances differently. That's why Calzaghe's punching style seems to be funny for many newbies though if these people follow the amateurs well enough you will notice that style of punching does indeed exist. The Gold medalist Yermakhan Ibraimov, who beat Jermain Taylor in the Sydney Olympics semi finals, had a punching style quite similar to Calzaghe's, though all treat their own as their physique allows them to. Even Margarito, a one-diemsional no skill sandbag, rarely leaps in like that wide open.
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This is what I mean, B. No one else on that list is dumb enough to get caught like that.

Beenie · Sep 25, 2010

Scar said: ↑

Is that an honest question or are you trying to look foolish?

Mosley took punches from DLH(x2), Forrest(x2), Mayorga, Margaritolol, Vargas(x2), Wright(x2), Mayweather, R.Marquez, Cotto and whoever else I'm missing.

Margarito took punches from Cotto, Williams and yeah, Cintron(x2).
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I'm really not inclined to defend Margarito in just about any context and so I won't.

IMO, though, Shane isn't indestructible. Furthermore, Manny would destruct him, imho.

Leon · Sep 25, 2010

ripcity said: ↑

Floyd Yes
Shane Yes
Cotto No (ko'd 12)
Berto Yes
Maidana No
Khan No
Margarito No
Martinez Yes
Tall Paul Yes
Alexander Yes
Bradley Yes
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You think Floyd has a better chin than Marg?:huh

Scar · Sep 25, 2010

Beenie said: ↑

I'm really not inclined to defend Margarito in just about any context and so I won't.

IMO, though, Shane isn't indestructible. Furthermore, Manny would destruct him, imho.
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They could have made that fight but chose Cotto instead. I'm a Pac fan as I'm a Mayweather and Mosley fan, that's the truth.

J.R. · Sep 25, 2010

Yes:
Shane
Margarito
Martinez
Tall Paul

Maybe:
Floyd
Cotto

No:
Berto
Maidana
Khan
Alexander
Bradley

Although I don't think either of those guys would be stupid enough to just dive directly into the punch the way Ricky Hatton did. atsch

Beenie · Sep 25, 2010

Scar said: ↑

They could have made that fight but chose Cotto instead.
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I'm well aware.

I'm a Pac fan as I'm a Mayweather and Mosley fan, that's the truth.

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And I'm well aware.

timmyjames · Sep 25, 2010

that was pretty much a perfect shot....i don't care who you are, if you walk into that, you are on your ass

maybe, and that is a big maybe, someone still gets up...but that was just perfect

the real question is, who else on that list would be in the position to take that shot

BenjaminLinus · Sep 25, 2010

timmyjames said: ↑

that was pretty much a perfect shot....i don't care who you are, if you walk into that, you are on your ass

maybe, and that is a big maybe, someone still gets up...but that was just perfect

the real question is, who else on that list would be in the position to take that shot
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Well, that's where the chin talk comes in. Personally, I think Shane and Margarito are the only two who could get up from it. Sergio, too. Maybe P-Will. The rest go to sleep. Floyd 2 minutes. Berto 2 minutes. Bradley forever. Alexander forever. Khan forever. Maidana forever.

timeout · Sep 25, 2010

Leon said: ↑

This is what I mean, B. No one else on that list is dumb enough to get caught like that.
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God some of u are stupid...
The question wasn't "would they get caught with a shot like that"
Question was what if they did get caught with the same punch in the same location?

See the difference?

We all know some boxers are too defensively minded to get caught like that.

san rafael · Sep 25, 2010

Beenie said: ↑

Nice

However such a distinction should only be reserved for likes of a one Gerry Penalosa. :deal
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They're the same breed. Will give u that. Your next post is a problem tho.

Beenie said: ↑

I'm really not inclined to defend Margarito in just about any context and so I won't.

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He's not?? And that's based on... What? Shane Mosley has never been stopped at any level. Ever. Never will be. Ever.

Margarito on the other hand... Penalosa on the other hand... Nobody needs to save Shane's life. Uh uh.

Leon · Sep 25, 2010

timeout said: ↑

God some of u are stupid...
The question wasn't "would they get caught with a shot like that"
Question was what if they did get caught with the same punch in the same location?

See the difference?

We all know some boxers are too defensively minded to get caught like that.
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You sound smart. Do you get paid to teach?

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