Chins....why some have glass jaws and why some have granite?

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  1. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's a mental thing... Not just a physical process that allows you to absorb the power before it takes your legs away through your jaw and back spine. A big punch weakens you like hell but if you hold on and rough'em up while they're doing what they're doing, you are not only able to shake it off but you can really psyche them out for the whole fight. Something like Holyfield did against Tyson or Ali to Foreman. You gotta believe that you are the meanest guy in there and that you'll recover fast. If you try to run away or let him punch himself out, it's not going to work.
     
  2. ScouseLad

    ScouseLad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm comfortable enough with who I am to not turn away in disgust when you see a bloke in a porno. :good
     
  3. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This explanation is from "LiamE" a knowledgable user on ESB pointing out three different types of head shot KO's and the importance of neck muscles:

    "Put simply the stronger the neck the better able it is to deal with violent accelerations and protect the nerves etc from getting stressed. Temple shots are a common cause of a boxers legs going as a shot high on the head puts more leverage of the neck than other shots lower down. Its the nerves in the neck getting stressed that stops the brain being able to talk to the legs properly for a few seconds even if the head is completley clear.. just think of Zab or Enzo Mac saying they are fine to the ref while not being able to stand.

    What stops those nerves getting a shock when a boxer is hit? The neck muscles. Look at Holyfield, a guy that clearly worked on his neck muscles, how often did you see his head snap even when hit with big shots? His neck muscles were strong enough to keep his neck stable even when taking monster punches for the most part.

    The chin is a bit different. Now I dont know if you have ever taken a good shot on the chin but if have you may know what I mean by this. There are loads of nerves at the joint of the jaw (your dentist may have given you an injection there) and the jaw can move around. If you get hit on the chin in such a way as to make the jaw crush those nerves you may well be knocked unconcious. I got sucker punched in the street once and although I didnt go down I way literally blind for about 5 seconds and seeing stars for a minute or so. I have been hit on the chin hundreds of times but that has only happened once to me. Due to the differences in peoples bodies some people are just more vulnerable to that than others. There is no training that will ever change that. When people get KO'ed by a straightish punch to the chin that is usually what happend.

    There is also a second mechanism for being KO'ed by a punch to the chin and you see this mostly with hooks... the chin when hit from the side is a good place to get a lot of leverage to sharply twist the head and strain the neck nerves. Jackson-Graham was a perfect example of that. That again can be helped by a stronger neck as it stabilises the head and minimised the twist put on the neck, though even with the strongest neck in the world that can still cause a KO by crushing the nerves at the jaw joint.

    Hope that makes some sense."
     
  4. Stimulant

    Stimulant Active Member Full Member

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  5. Stezzie

    Stezzie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ahh...porn...I guess I could understand that... As long as there isn't any admiration and the cocks arent the reason you watch...:hey
     
  6. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he has deveolpoed upper trapezius from weight-lifting but the structure of his neck is very long and slim.
     
  7. ScouseLad

    ScouseLad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jessica Jaymes was the reason I watched last time. She's not bad at all!
     
  8. Philphy Rich

    Philphy Rich Member Full Member

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    Some people are just born granite hard ****ers and others are just naturally, physically weak *****'s basically.

    That's the crux of it.
     
  9. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree, the harder people to knock out also have the best balance, their chins are tucked in, body squared or to the side. I think it comes down to technique more than natural punch resistance. Anybody can get knocked out, imo, when they fall into another opponent's trap. I've never believed in someone's chin being ruined or someone having a granite chin.
     
  10. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    Some are lucky, some are not.
     
  11. Supreme

    Supreme New Member Full Member

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    Im slightly deaf so my chin is ****ing awesome lol