Chisora / Haye Part Ways

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  1. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    Haye done a great job, seems to be a pretty good manager. If anybody else had Chisora record they would be fighting in a leisure centre for a few grand. Chisora has a stunning losing record but he has earned millions in all of his fights with Haye. Pretty genuis. Chisora is set for life financially.
     
  2. Journey Man

    Journey Man Journeyman always. Full Member

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    Can’t argue with his. Chisora has likely earned a couple million during his time with Haye, whereas someone like Joyce in the same timeframe has probably earned peanuts in comparison.
     
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  3. Vegan Beast

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    I disagree. Usyk is a good fighter, he was simply outboxed. He was unlucky to lose vs Parker, many people think Chisora won that one, me included. If Parker did win is was very close, proving that if Parker is still to be taken seriously, so is Chisora.

    He pushed Whyte to his limits and won the first fight IMO, worried Usyk at times, and matched Parker.
     
  4. bbjc

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    Chisoras still a very good fighter imo. People talk about his losses and how much money hes made...and yet the same people complain guys are not stepping up to take on challenges or complain fighters protect their 0 too much.

    Pretty much from the start of dels career hes been prepared to go in against top guys. He also doesnt just turn up for a payday...goes in to win and very nearly has. Hes never gonna be the very best of a pretty deep division....but hes paid his dues and showed that if your prepared to go in against the top guys and entertain theres money to be made for anyone.

    Think dels careers been worth 10 times some of the guys out there that are producing manufactured records...like a lot of guys out there are doing atm. Hes genuinely had a great career...taking on all comers tbf to him.
     
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  5. aaaaa

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    Don't like to shoot down people's opinion but he's terrible and always has been. The fact Chisora is now a PPV fighter just sums up the state of boxing in this country.
     
  6. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This. It is very difficult to negotiate any top level fight at HW, I even do not talk about top15, problems are starting with boxers ranked even just at top 100 by boxrec at HW.

    Chisora box and he had lost fights vs enough well known names.
    Best example: after Chisora had lost vs over the hill almost one handed 40 y.o Vitali ( Vitali then had WBC World Title, this does matters ) he not only had good paycheck:) for his fight, he quickly get next well:) paid fight vs the same Haye !.

    Chisora doesn't cherry pick: there Vitali, Haye, Fury, White, recently Usyk and Parker.

    Chisora really isn' that bad.
    I had valued Usyk's chances at HW lower than Parker's chances cos Parker is young, low mileage under belt and he is larger and heavier than Usyk.
    Outcome: Chisora looked vs 241 ? lbs fresh Parker better than vs ~217 lbs Usyk ( with serious mileage under belt ).
    Parker is still ranked highly, there are not conversations about Chisora being club level fighter and other nonsense.
    He went all distance vs Parker and Usyk, regardless how we value these boxers, Parker went all distance vs hometown officiated A.J and this means a lot. Parker performed vs Ruiz better than A.J in both their fights too, this means something.
    Usyk is most mobile and agile boxer in currernt HW top 15 despite he for sure is not in physical prime anymore + he is southpaw who uses dynamic high guard, angles change and was best jabber in CW division during last decade for sure.

    Conclusion: Chisora is not so bad like ppl are thinking.
     
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  7. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chisora is above Euro level but probably just off the world elite group. He has acted his role as gatekeeper diligently and deserves to be remembered as a tough opponent at any level. He knows his level and more importantly knows his worth.
     
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  8. therealhustle

    therealhustle New Member Full Member

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    hilarious but true.
     
  9. therealhustle

    therealhustle New Member Full Member

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    Penfold
     
  10. therealhustle

    therealhustle New Member Full Member

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    Lol
     
  11. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dont really get it....chisoras the only one than gets any real stick in the division and yet goes in and gives everyone else a tough long nights work. Usyk, whyte, parker....all had hard nights against him.

    He had parker hurt in about 15 seconds. Had whyte all over the place numerous times...and made usyk look more uncomfortable than i,ve ever seen. The same usyk that people keep saying is going to beat joshua.

    Are these standards people are using....standards where only one or two boxers are any good. In other words unrealistic standards. The reality and truth is you dont get to chisoras position if your not a great fighter.
     
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  12. Aint no stoppin

    Aint no stoppin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agreed and they have done that at the very end of his career too when everybody wrote chisora off including myself. Financially chisora earned more with haye than with anybody else.
     
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  13. KaneCobra

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    His losses record don't tell the full story

    Chisora has been a top 10 heavyweight in the world . He's probably still top 15 now.

    He beat Whyte, Helenius and Parker but didn't get the decisions.
     
  14. KaneCobra

    KaneCobra New Member banned Full Member

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    I think he's a ****head outside of the the ring

    But he's fought:

    Vitali Klitschko, Tyson Fury x 2, David Haye, Oleksandr Usyk, Kubrat Pulev, Dillian Whyte x 2, Joseph Parker, Robert Helenius, Agit Kabayel,
    Carlos Takam, Malik Scott, Artur Szpilka, David Price, Danny Williams, etc.

    He's a warrior in the ring. Ducked no one, constantly wanted to face the toughest opponents. His career has been exciting to watch. He's kinda been like a Arturo Gatti/ Micky Ward at heavyweight
     
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  15. aaaaa

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    He's a glorified loser. Lost every decent fight he's ever had. The fact people slate Khan who's got some great names on his record but see Chisora as a warrior just shows the state UK boxing is in.
     
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