Chisora looking like a LEAN BEAST! This is the DAVID HAYE factor.

Chisora has a decent chance but it's a turf fight between two b class journeyman.

 

You can't call Whyte a journeyman, that's ridiculous.

On a run of Chisora, Helenius, Browne, Parker and is ranked number 1 with the WBC.

To call Whyte a journeyman is not right.

 

If Miller deserves a title shot then Whyte deserves one before, for sure, i do agree although it should be Wilder not Joshuas as Joshua beat Whyte clearly. On the other side Miller hasn't fought for a world title so he should get a chance too as Whyte got one in the past without beaten anyone of notice.

It's not relative if you are writing "He fought some of the best opponents in the division". This is a clear and clean statement about Whytes resume and you should bring some names here or your posting is exposed as fanboy shithouse talk.

Whyte has fought some (under) European level fighters like past Helenius and Dave Allen and he beat an one hit wonder who looked like a 50yo pub brawler in Lucas Browne but if you call those guys "best of the division" then you are definitely out of of control.

Best of the division: Miller, Ortiz, Povetkin, Joshua, Wilder, Pulev, Parker.

Whyte has two good wins on his record: Parker and Chisora. Both fights were close and had some controversy. It's not the fact that he blasted out both guys and clearly beat them. This is nonsens.

The Whyte hype is so damn sick overrated. The guy is nothing special and guys like Miller or Ortiz would blast him out of the ring. I know this is a subjective opinion about a fighter beating another but let's face the truth...Whyte hasn't faced anyone on that level so far apart from Joshua and he was KTFO. So let's make those fights if he beats Delboy. No duck for some extra cash. Let him fight Joshua before, afterwards there is no reason not to fight Ortiz for example. Whyte called Ortiz out several times and what happened? He fought Parker and Chisora. LMAO. This is a clean duck. QUAK.

But as i wrote before...i can live with that. Parker is decent opposition, Chisora too. If he beats Delboy he should get the Joshua fight ffs, then it's over, he had a nice payday or two (Chisora will bring some good cash too) and THEN it's definitely time to go for the best. Povetkin, Ortiz, Miller. I do not care. But he should fight some guys of that level of threat. BIG PUNCHING GUYS.

 

With respect you're saying Miller deserves a world title shot because he hasn't had one before but Whyte hasn't had a world title fight before, not one world title fight.

You must be confusing him fighting Joshua for the British title.

With a run of Chisora, Helenius, Browne and Parker and if he wins against Chisora again beating the man who just knocked out Takam..

Then Whyte is more deserving of a title shot by miles and miles, it's not even comparable.


Whyte is also Number one with the WBC and has been for a while and isn't mandatory and Wildwe has said he will make him wait years.. so what should he do?

 

Yeah you are right, mixed things up, it was for the British title. My fault. Yeah, Whyte deserves a world title shot, i give you that, i agree.

Povetkin had one.
Ortiz had one.
Pulev had the chance but pulled out
Parker had one.

Miller and Whte should get one too.

But i do not agree that Millers run is worse than Whytes.

Parker, Chisora, Helenius, Browne isn't much better than Wach, Duhaupas, Washington and Dinu IMO.

I think all of them would beat Helenius and Browne easily.

Chisora vs. Wach/Duhaupas/Washington/Dinu would be close

Parker would probably beat them all but who knows, he won't blast them out. Especially Duhaupas and Wach who are tough as nails. Washington is a good boxer and would put up a fight too and Dinu is underrated, his KO vs Miller was a bit strange though. He looked good in the first two rounds.very good!

 

Oh don't misunderstand me, I like Miller, I think he will be a tougher test for Joshua than Whyte but in my opinion Whyte deserves his shot.

The fact Wilder said he would make Whyte (WBC Number 1) wait years then it's either AJ or no title shot, Whyte has been promised one by Hearn I believe, AJ said he would love to fight Whyte again, there is a Stadium booked..

So if it isn't Fury or Wilder next for AJ then I think it should be Whyte.

 

I have no problem with Miller having one or two more fights till he gets his world title shot. Trevor Bryan and maybe Chisora if he loses to Whyte. Whyte should get his second shot vs. Joshua (if he beats Chisora) and in September it should be Miller (if he beats Bryan and the other opponent) for Joshua. Fury and Wilder - if they'll fight in April - should have one tune up fight after fighting each other and the winner should get a shot vs. Joshua/Miller at the beginning of 2020. And everybody is happy.

 

Oh for sure but if you knew me on here you’d know I’m not into the fanboy thing,followed Joshua his entire career and his fight with Parker p****d me off so much on account of him pulling the A side thing I quickly got off the bandwagon as the Ref in that fight was disgustingly bad,kid you not he was telling em to calm down for throwing punches,wouldn’t let em fight on the inside and like you mentioned with Parker and Whyte similar thing,Parker such a gentleman pissed me off as he basically got paid a ton of cash to lose to em both,even if Parker outboxed em he wouldn’t of got the decision,still respect Whyte and Parker for doing it though.
Another point here is that things have changed since then,now we got the entire top ten facing each other like Pulev v Hughie,Tyson v Wilder,Joshua v mandatories,Wilder v Ortiz but before that there was not many facing each other and in any case pro boxing and in particular the HW division has always been about beating those you should beat and stepping up against the best.
I’m no Whyte fanboy and actually think he’s a nob of a person but to my eye he looks to be a yes man and doesn’t fear the loss as some do,any ducking on his part is liable to Hearn Imo.

Whyte legitimately after his loss to Joshua built his way back up,looked like crap after surgery and to my eye looks a better boxer now he can throw that left hook so he really ought to beat Chisora convincingly and if he doesn’t I’ll be the first to come on here and say I was wrong.
Long post I know but I have to tell you what I think of Miller as we talking about resumes,not many fighters get my back up like Miller,the cheeseburger thing and coming in fatter and heavier each fight really bugs me as does his carefully matched opponents,they’re all of the same ilk,guys like Marius Wach who just about have a name that’s recognisable but basically not much good.Eddie Hearn who seems hell bent on giving him a Joshua fight even said to him “beat a guy like Marius Wach well and you could be looking at Joshua”and whilst the entire division are now facing one another this Miller just keeps on actively fighting these lesser guys.
Imo there has to be a reason he’s been so carefully matched,this ex MMA guy has convinced some but until we see him step up I can’t see how we can rate him.

 

Yep better for Joshua to not fight at all than some of the names that have been bandied about like Whyte or Miller.
I think it’s totally backfired on Joshua in that I don’t think either wanted to face each other until next year but a lot can happen in boxing and Tyson Fury coming back so quick to face and arguably beat Wilder has put those plans on hold.
So obvious to me that neither really wanted that fight at the time as they’d we’re using those pathetic “public”negation tactics on Twitter,talk of 50 million from Wilder and non replies from Finkle and co was the same type of BS that Canelo v Golovkin was when they were going at it,speaks volumes that when they serious the fights get made behind closed doors as they always have.

 

Makes sense as Joshua has to fight the winner of Wilder v Fury

 

I realise you've already kinda responded to this post to Angler Andrew, but just to chime in, aside from the top guys Whyte's got as good a resume as anyone in the division right now. The win over Parker alone puts him head and shoulders over most guys, and Chisora's recent KO of Takam makes Whyte's first victory quite a bit more impressive in hindsight. Helenius and Browne are both solid names to have on a record as well.

Compare that to someone like Ortiz, who's only got Jennings on his record from three years ago, and hasn't beaten anyone decent in his last five fights, and Whyte's record and recent run of form is demonstrably superior. Pulev, aside from Hughie Fury, has been on the bum beating circuit for a while now also. Miller has a bunch of old names on his resume but no truly stand out wins. Nothing to compare to Joseph Parker for instance.

Even Wilder, whose best win is Ortiz, doesn't necessarily have a better resume.

So aside from Joshua, Fury and Povetkin (who lost his last fight) Whyte has the strongest resume and certainly one of the strongest runs of form in the top ten, and I'm not saying that as anyone's who's remotely a fan of his.

 

Calling Whyte a "B class journeyman" is devaluing the entire division and making nonsense of a very specific boxing term.

Whyte is crude, but he'd give problems to almost anyone in the world right now, and has already beaten a former world champ in Parker, albeit in a close and somewhat controversial fight. He's in a similar position to where Ortiz was a few years ago, a tough hard-punching dangerman that few of the top guys would willingly want to fight. Wilder has already spoken of his reluctance to fight him, and I don't see too many other people leaping at the chance.

 

Chisora beat Whyte the first time, he'll need a KO to win the rematch.

 

I expect that was his intent. Some people try to devalue a division when it's not their guy on top.

 

I suspect so too. It's a bit dumb really, considering neither Klitschko fought in a demonstrably better era, and Wlad lost to two of the men in the top ten today.