Chisora - Not world class

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by aum, Jul 21, 2013.


  1. aum

    aum Member Full Member

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    Very unimpressed with Chisora.


    Although his weight was a big problem previously, getting into shape has not done anything to improve his technical ability.


    All I saw last night against Scott, was no jab, plodding forward and very little punches thrown once he has his man against the ropes.


    Getting his weight down to a decent level is simply half the job. He needs to get a new trainer and come up with some new ideas as he seems to be in a rut.


    He needs to start throwing more jabs and more punches in general from round 1.
     
  2. MrCasual

    MrCasual Member Full Member

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    I don't think I've ever heard anyone call Chisora world class??? He's rugged and durable and isn't afraid to fight anyone, anywhere, he's also a bit of lunatic but world class boxer I think we can all agree he is not, still he would of beat up Malik Scott had he been given the chance.
     
  3. sir axeman

    sir axeman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If he isn't world class (not that big a thing in todays division) then nor is Fury who did beat Chisora when he was fat. I'd have to say on account of his fights even when losing against top class fighters like Vitali and Haye he's given a good account of himself and been competitive...so I'd have to say yes he IS world class. He'll be entering the top 10 i'm sure after his win over Scott.
     
  4. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    doesn't take much to be a world class heavy these days

    He is world class.
     
  5. rainmaker

    rainmaker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seen Chisora fight a lot better when he was coming up, threw a good array of shots when he beat s.e.xton and Helenius. Looked Wild and sloppy, slow against Haye and this latest fight against Scott. Not sure what's happened to him. Yes he is not a world beater but he's a better fighter than what he's been showing lately.

    Anyone else feel the same? Maybe he should try another trainer, seems to be going backwards somewhat. Needs a trainer who is going to polish him up and some tough sparring partners to sharpen up.
     
  6. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    He most certainly is world class. I also think his style suits him and he doesnt need a new trainer. He needs to be in top shape at all times, Wlad type shape. Sharpening his mauling style is all that needs to be done.

    Is he top 3? No but he is certainly top 15.
     
  7. War-Lord

    War-Lord Active Member Full Member

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    Lol I don't think fury is world class? Who the **** does?
     
  8. ACS

    ACS Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think what Chisora needs to do is just hit to the body for the first 6 rounds then go to the head
    His punching technique to the head is terrible but if he can slow his opponent down he can catch them easier
     
  9. TowersOfIce

    TowersOfIce Max Kellerman ruined HBO Full Member

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    He is the Andre Berto of the heavyweight division.
     
  10. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No he's not but his heart, hunger and toughness has gotten the job done.
     
  11. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    All I heard before the fight was that Scott was the best heavyweight in the world, unbeatable. Scott said he was the best and that he would easily knock out both Klitschkos. Bullcrap! Wilder is a fraud also. Tony Thompson would knock Scott and Wilder out. Wilder refused to fight Thompson...........
     
  12. MrCasual

    MrCasual Member Full Member

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    As a casual fan my definition of World Class is different. I've dipped in and out of boxing for almost 30 years and right now I only see 2 world class heavyweights in the Klits and a potential world class heavyweight fighter in David Haye who for me is yet to show his class as a heavyweight. The rest I don't consider anywhere near world class. Just the rest of a bad bunch. Thats just my opinion.
     
  13. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He is indeed World class. True you could pick about 30 fellas to beat him at HW but he is of course World class.

    :roll:

    What did people watch in that fight with Scott that makes you chaps think Chisora is elite? Speaking as someone who fought at a certain level all I saw was Dereck plodding forward as usual and getting completely taken apart by Scott, the difference in technical ability between the two men was staggering. Then the "KO" happened.
     
  14. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    Chisora's sorta higher echelon gatekeeper level. The kinda guy you'd have to get past to be able to compete near the top. I mean, he's fought a lot of the guys hovering around the top 10-15 and must be considered amongst them, but probably wouldn't ever get his hands on a belt even in a world without Klitschkos.

    What is meant by world class? If it means a beltholder or potential champ - then probably not. If it means competitive at international level, then I'd say he is.
     
  15. TKO6

    TKO6 Boxcar for life Full Member

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