Chisora Vs Ortiz

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  1. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    I'd say 50/50 but only because Ortiz is so old now. If we rewind about 4 years then I'd say Ortiz wins this easily.
     
  2. ad4m88

    ad4m88 Active Member Full Member

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    I agree with you I like Joyce he's not spectacular but he seems to get the job done just hope he gets a shot at a belt before he gets too old hopefully the fact he started boxing late means he has a long time before then
     
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  3. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Ortiz didn't duck no Joshua. Joshua tried to fight Ortiz in short notice. 2 weeks to be exact.
     
  4. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz called out AJ and said he was willing to step in and fight AJ (Ortiz stating that he was a gym rat and always in shape) . AJ team called his bluff and made the offer to which Ortiz team turned it down. It's a duck.
     
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  5. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's not the excuse Ortiz used, after being offered 7 million he said he wasn't aware of the offer and that his management had refused to accept the deal without his knowledge. Obviously that sounds like total BS, what boxer wouldn't want to be kept informed of negotiations of a fight let alone a world title shot vs the biggest cash cow in the division.

    Also Ortiz was Joshua's mandatory, threatened to take Joshua to court if he didn't get his shot, but obviously that again was BS. Ortiz was more than happy to jump ship to PBC and get what was perceived as an easier title shot for far less money when offered Wilder. Fact is Ortiz has always been risk adverse, that's pretty clear from his behaviour throughout his career, from ducking Joshua, Ustinov and countless fights vs complete journeymen in recent years. Fact is he never wanted Joshua or anyone else he thought would be tough to beat, he's been more than happy fighting mediocre opposition for mediocre paydays for his entire career, he lacks the ambition or belief.

    He jumped ship from Goldenboy when they tried to make him fight Ustinov despite literally just signing with them, paying to buy out his contract with them. Then when Matchroom put him in against difficult opponents in Scott and Allen who made him look bad he again jumped ship to PBC looking for a promoter who would feed him easy opponents. If he really had any ambition he would of fought Ustinov, would of waited for his multi million pound mandatory shot vs Joshua but instead he's always looked for the easier, safer path, even if it meant less money.
     
  6. Your Mum

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    Takam is much better than Jennings
     
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  7. Your Mum

    Your Mum Member Full Member

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    Jersey Joe Walcott had bigger fish to fry while Ortiz was in his prime
     
  8. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    He was offered the fight before Ruiz

    PBC fan boy talking crap as always
     
  9. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Ignore him Mitch

    Clearly a PBC shill
     
  10. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    How so?
     
  11. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Well said

    Alo talks some complete rubbish
     
  12. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As of today I'd pick Ortiz basically because he hits harder and a fight between two old fighters would come down to power because neither one is going to slip many punches.
     
  13. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Takam lost every round vs Povetkin before he was KOd. He gave a ridiculous amount of trouble to Joyce recently before being wrongly stopped though.
     
  14. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    I think if they fought this year Chisora would win relatively easily.
     
  15. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    So a big ol' duck then.