Chisora Vs Ortiz

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  1. It's Ovah

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    Did he? I'd watch that fight again. Takam was giving Povetkin all sorts of problems up until the last few rounds.
     
  2. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Even if it was two weeks rather than six the fact is one man stepped up to the plate and the other mumbled some excuses and shuffled his old ass out the door.

    That was the day the feared bogeyman lost all his teeth.
     
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  3. Your Mum

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    Because Takam is the superior fighter
     
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  4. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Ok but in what way?
     
  5. Your Mum

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    In the same way Marvin Hagler was better than Eric Crumble
     
  6. Perkin Warbeck

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    Chisora is not necessarily a superior fighter than Ortiz, but his career has been much better.

    Ortiz has been poorly managed and fought a lot of very soft opposition, while Chisora has consistently been in big fights with many of the top heavyweights of the past 12 years or so.

    Chisora's losing to people like Vitali Klitschko and Tyson Fury is no disgrace. Ortiz avoiding Filip Hrgovic in a IBF world title final eliminator is pathetic though.

    I wouldn't say he was "giving Povetkin all sorts of problems" but he was doing okay and holding his own in the earlier rounds.

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  7. ForemanJab

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    Ortiz when he was good looked like the more skillful operator. I don’t think Chisora would’ve folded up Jennings like he did. Disappointing career.
     
  8. Alo2006

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    Not a duck. He asked for more training time, and was denied. AJ was trying to take advantage. We see it back fired with Ortiz.
     
  9. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Don't include mw in your fanboy-ism. It was not 6 weeks. Definitely was less. Clearly AJ was looking for an advantage.
     
  10. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    So please explain

    Ruiz was offered after Ortiz turned it down

    Ruiz had a 6 week camp

    And how was he looking for an advantage?

    Miller popped dirty with little time to go

    Thats AJ's way of looking for an advantage?

    Your clearly biased or stupid, possibly both


    Either your maths is shocking or your shilling for your favourites again
     
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  11. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz publically said he would step in and fight AJ as Millers replacement. Matchroom made an offer ( career high purse for Ortiz at the time) to which Ortiz's team turned down.

    Facts.

    It's a duck.
     
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  12. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Clearly you're the stupid one and lying. Learn how to use your vs you're first. Ruiz didn't have 6 weeks of camp, he had 4 weeks. The fight didn't get signed until May 1. They fought June 1. Do the math genius. Do your research before you speak on what you don't know.
     
  13. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Ok lets say im wrong (which im not)

    If Ruiz had 4 weeks but was offered the fight after Ortiz, how did Ortiz have 2 weeks?

    Idiot
     
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  14. bailey

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    Who knows
    Ortiz didn't stop a more faded version of Scott who Chisora stopped when undefeated.
    I really don't like examples like that as every fight can be different and one person's result against one fighter doesn't necessarily reflect what another's would be in a different fight

    The problem I think with this question is that I think Chisora has been faded since the second Fury fight even though he has recorded some good wins since

    Chisora had it very tough early on fighting on the tough European scene

    Consider he fought

    Undefeated prime Helenius
    Haye
    Undefeated Fury
    V Klitschko
    Undefeated Scott
    Gerber
    Sexton
    Williams
    Undefeated Fury again

    All within 25 fights and had been due to fight W Klitschko

    That I think would take alot out of any fighter
     
  15. theanatolian

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    Ortiz by KO, possibly a brutal one. As superior as Chisora’s opposition has been, his face first, wild style plays right into Ortiz’s strength which is counter-punching.