Choc on Channel 9 footy coverage

And have continued on with my old penny teammate.

Luke''good years''Rooney..

Best brakes in the business.

Unfortunetly for choc he was good but not Fittler,Daley like.

GREATS.

Oh and choc didnt like to tackle either.bit like his boxing career.He shys away from the hard stuff.

 

Wipe your chin after you talk ****...and have a mint or somethin' (try bleach) :scaredas:

For starters Mundine was a different style of player to Fittler and Daley, the latter two more suited to the five eighth/lock style ball running No.6 that had the football brains to also be creative. Both were safe type of players that could be relied on to get the job done.

Mundine on the other hand was more "ad-lib" and possessed a brilliance that the other two did not. His ability to create something out of nothing with explosive acceleration and agilty, combined with great vision is one of the reasons he has successfully crossed over from league to boxing.

The problem was that he was not seen as a team player. Any coach of a rep team wants players who'll do as they're told and follow their game plan but Choc has always been his own man, unlike Daley who was seen as solid and safe. That's not to say that Daley or Fittler didn't have the capacity to to break a game wide open, they did, but there wasn't to many games where Daley didn't have great players inside and outside of him to help alleviate some of the pressure, unlike Choc. Having Daley at No.6 was always seen as the way to go with Alf or Sticky at No.7, Freddy often playing at No.8 (unless they were short on backs where Freddy played 6 and Daley No.3 or 4.)

As for Mundine having suspect defence that's bull****. He went in low and took them down as often as any half or five eighth.

Simple fact is that Anthony Mundine was playing so well it was criminal that he never got an Australian jumper. Regardless of who was playing at the time they could have found him a spot as he could also play centre or even on the bench as an attacking player. If your team if down by a try with less than 10 minutes to go he was THE PLAYER you would want at your disposal.

That said, Mundines ommision wasn't as bad as Wayne Bennett overlooking every Wests Tigers player for the Australian team after they won the grand final...except for Scott Prince who was 2nd choice halfback.

Australia lost.

 

When you make your television debut in a grand final, boxing title fight, as a chanel nine commentator....let us know.

Even if SBS come calling for you to take a bit part giving a BJ to an alcoholic invalid out in the scrub, again, let us know. :verysad

 

It was a trend back then that you had to apply your trade to make the national team. They were usually reluctant to blood young guys in the team regardless of if they were good enough or not. Similar to how Gilchrist was killing it at state level cricket while Healy was fading out at international level.

Also, Mundine's arrogance and his speaking out on certain issues didn't do him any favours either.

I disagree a bit about Mundine being more explosive than Fittler. Fittler was a game breaker, and knew how to organize a team, which was something Mundine couldn't really do.
He was very dynamic too Fittler, he was just more humble in his manner as opposed to Mundine who was doing backflips, ect.

Bottom line is, Mundine probably would have got his cap had he stuck around longer, but as is the case with Mundine, he is fairly ambitious and is always looking for the short road to glory.

Mundine wanted to be capped for australia after just a few years, and also wanted to be a world champion after just 10 fights and 2 years in the business. With a bit more time and patience, he could have achieved both.

 

but im sure they couldnt care less what a bunch of anonymous strangers think of them.lighten up.hes made millions being the man you love to hate im sure that soothes the pain of being unpopular with some.

 

What exactly about my post was ****??

Fittler and Daley being greats of the game??

Mundine being a good footy player??But not GREAT??

Or Mundines dodgy defence??Yes he can tackle but so can Preston Campbell...though both miss or in Mundines case missed their fair share of tackles.(pull out some old tapes)

All the truth and even most Mundine nuthuggers would agree with that...:deal

 

i agree.matthew johns was once picked ahead of him.atsch

 

When the knights were top of the league and Johns was in career best form..

 

Fittler and Daley > Mundine...end of story. They proved this week in and week out at the elite level for many years, whereas Choc did not.

But Johns getting picked in front of him...wow. I mean it was pretty much bull****, Choc didnt have the best game in the grandfinal but he carved up Cronulla in the prelim final and was in decent form.
He played origin that year, though he didnt get much of a start, he didnt play bad and Im pretty sure he picked up a try.

The whole racial thing didnt help him, as it is well known that there were Aboriginal selectors and Aboriginals playing in the side, it made him look stupid. He just didnt realise that doesnt matter what race you are, if you rub people to wrong way they aint going to like you.

 

i am no mundine fan but he was at the time much better than M.Johns IMO.

 

But Joey was incumbent halfback and Matty was in good form, and I don't blame the selectors for wanting to keep the Johns brothers combination intact.

 

The whole racial thing was ridiculous forsure.

Laurie Daley has asmuch aboriginal in him as Mundine..Mundine is only half cast at best.His ****ing mum is anglo..He must be colour blind or something when it comes to the lady that poped him out.

The bloke really liked shooting himself in the foot and done so bigtime with all that bull****..

 

As a individual.Probably yes but the selectors looked at who would be the best halves combination and felt at the time(like most people would) that the Johns boys would be the best6-7 as the know eachother's game and can stick to a structured gameplan etc.

Dont think the selectors wanted his chip and chases for himself in there gameplan..

Mundine was a individual who generally played with blinkers on...As shown in the Storm-Dragons GF when he lost them the game by being his usually glory hound self and knocking the ball on over the line when he had unmarked players outside him.

I know people who want to kill him for that..lol..and im being serious. literally want to kill him.

I hate the Dragons so couldnt care less.

UP THE PANTHERS

 

You are my favourite now Ozzieb..

 

I will second that.

But its not a big deal missing out on NSW and Australian honours.

Australia has a few genuine match winners. The rest are solid players, who are just consistent. And Mundine was better then those consistent type players.

Also with NSW they look for the same thing consistency. But its not a big deal missing out on NSW. Especially when players like Brett White and Steve Turner are picked. (kind of same thing back in the day).

I guess im saying NSW and Australia isn't exactly the best team on the park. For which they can choose. They choose a few match winners e.g Thurston, Slater, Cameron Smith. And then build the team around them through the likes of Gallen, Perry, Stewart etc etc. (Although Glen Stewart is heavily under rated).

Mundine at his peak was good enough to play for both NSW and Australia.

Who gives a **** if hes arrogant.

If anyone has played sport at a high level. You know, you have to be arrogant, in the sense of backing yourself, telling yourself that you are the best, to succeed.

E.G Im sure fighters like Carl Froch and Jean Pascal tell themselves they are the best when they go into the ring, but they don't convey that to the media like Mundine does.