Choc on Channel 9 footy coverage

Please elaborate on this Bika-Kessler matchup.:yep

 

Bika vs Kessler...when did this happen?

 

atsch

 

Hey...you said it ya goober

 

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

I thought that maybe I'd missed something...

 

Sorry I ment Beyer atsch

 

Using your ****ed up logic....

Siaca took Mundine's pissarse Title..... So Siaca should be rated No 3 SMW......Not bad for a no account journeyman:yep

 

Point I was making is that Mundine fought better against kessler than the other guys on that list.

Kesslers stock went up on the weekend as did Mundine for lasting 12 against him.

Siaca ****ed off home half way through the fight.....I think :hey

If the WBA and Ring rated Mundine at #3 they must have been wrong hey OZ......using your ****ed up logic.

 

It's not a bad call to give Kessler a 120 -108 victory over Choc because 4 or 5 of the rounds were very close while Kessler won the others without dispute.

If you give Choc some of the close ones he could go down 116-112 but if you gave Kessler the close rounds then he wins every round BUT that would not be a fair indication of how well Choc done.

 

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Right on cue to defend Mundine's honour is my leedle ***** agay :yep

So much vitriol in your post, you really are a biscuit-ersed *****

Funny how you have to fall back on how much he was getting paid as some sort of evidence of his ability in league - yep, there's that word again, ability :yep

The amount he was getting paid per season didn't help him get an Aussie jumper, and he only got one NSW benchwarmers jumper out of it all. Superleague had a lot to do with the ridiculous amounts some players were getting back then :deal

Every time he's stepped up to fight the best he's lost.

If you think him being ranked in the top 5 while he fights tin cans and cab drivers somehow equates to him hanging with the top guys well, good luck to you - if it helps you sleep at night, go for it! :thumbsup

 

I'll start this post by saying that Brad Fittler was one of my favourite players. While he did have a tendency to go quiet during some games there have not been many more dangerous players when it came to attacking an opponents tryline. He had a fine kicking game, tight defence and could inspire any player that had a soul. In a word he was the complete league player and stood out as a leader among men in one of the toughest team sports in the world.

Leading up to the Tri Nations at the end of the 1999 season Fittler had been leading the Roosters into the semi finals as did Mundine with St.George. Daley on the otherhand had a poor year and Mundine was spot on suggesting that he was "running on old legs." Daley did perform well in the Origin Series although most first graders would playing outside Andrew Johns who has always been the primary target of opposition defenders.

What can't be overlooked Simple Fact Is That Anthony Mundine was the form player of year 1999 and was selected in all three games for the NSW team as a utility player due to the fact that the current five eighth, Brad Fittler, was also the captain. After coming off the bench he scored a try in NSW's 9-8 loss yet Coach Wayne Pearce gave him hardly any game time in the 2nd or 3rd match due to the fact that it it was a tight game and he has always been a conservative coach.

With Andrew Johns at half Pearce went with Fittler at lock and Daley at five eighth after losing game 1 by a point so Johns would have options both sides of the ruck in the form of running pivots. No surprise as this was how his Balmain team played back in the day with himself at lock, especially when guys like Ellery Hanley played at No.6. Simple fact is that Wayne Pearce was tactically flawed as a coach, his attacking game plan based on territorial dominance and completed sets.

Now don't forget that Anthony Mundine represented the junior Kangaroos. Follow through to 1999 where he played five eighth for City Origin and all three games for NSW plus helped St.George to the Grand Final as the most electric player in the NRL (alongside team mate Nathan Blacklock)....how did he not get chosen for the Tri Nation series ? Had I been coaching the Australian team I would have loved to throw Joey and Choc side by side just to see what eventuated...DYNAMITE.

The team was not chosen on form or he would have been the first player picked.

The answer lay squarely at the feet of coach Chris Anderson. This was the guy that constantly put Brett Kimmorley in at halfback ahead of Andrew Johns, who played out of position at No.9. Anderson coached his teams to play a flat attacking style game which was based around Kimmorley rarely going wide, instead offloading to forwards hitting flat passes on the advantage line. To sustain the his teams throughout the heavy workload Anderson would have all his interchange bench consisting of forwards.

Secondly, Chris Anderson was brought up playing for a team that had a strict policy of only allowing Catholics into the fold. The Canterbury Bankstown club under Peter Bullfrog Moore discriminated against anyone and everyone and there's little doubt that he wanted no part of Mundine in the Australian team. Mundine's criticism wasn't some verbal **** spray lacking credibility. Everyone within league circles was well aware of the bias towards certain players from clubs aligned along the Super League War.

Secondly there was a belief that Mundine needed the stability of his captain and halfback Trent Barett to bring out the best in him. Barrett and Mundine were brilliant together with the former moving his forwards around the park while Choc set the outside backs alight when his general gave approval.

SO why apart from Anthony Mundine was there not one St.George Dragon in either of the Origin teams throughout the three game series? This statistic is unbelievable at first glance but a deeper look reveals the truth.

Justification. Selectors can justify Mundine's omission by claiming they're going with team combinations if they leave out every member of the 1999 grand final favourites.

Finally, any suggestion that Mundine lost St.George the GF by losing the ball over the line is nothing more than a low blow. The simple fact is that Mundine's brilliant play was what put him in that position to begin with and there's nothing to say that had he passed the ball that a try would have been scored. Mundine backed his ability and it was this self belief that sets him apart from all his detractors that will never go close to achieving what he has because they don't take a chance and go for glory.

Had Mundine not been the player that backed his own ability they would not have made the GF to begin with. In fact his bravado was contagous with other players within the team playing the most wonderful rugby league ever seen, their slaughter of Cronulla a week before as underdogs the standout.

Now I'm off to Melbourne to see a man about a horse....:hi:

 

So what's your greatest achievement in life apart from putting Choc back in his place.

Forget that Ring Magazine has him ranked up near the top in his division...

Forget that Choc has St.George and Brisbane first grade jerseys alongside his City Origin, NSW Origin and Junior Kangaroo jerseys hanging in his cupboard...

Nope, he is a bum and you are the man !!!! :nut

Seriously, when you lay awake at night do you get depressed with the knowledge that your life has been nothing but waste ? Tell me about it when I get back next week.

:smooch

 

InBruMan he was highly competitive with Ottke, Siaca and Kessler. On my scorecard he beat Siaca, yes he fought poorly. But im confident as a boxing observor hes improved since then.

Im going to watch Felix Sturm this weekend and i will give you an honest assesment on monday.