Choose five Wlad-victims to beat prime Joshua

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Redbeard7, Dec 1, 2023.


Who do you take?

Poll closed Dec 15, 2023.
  1. 2000 Byrd

    48.0%
  2. McCline

    10.0%
  3. D. Williamson

    4.0%
  4. 2005 Peter

    64.0%
  5. Ibragimov

    34.0%
  6. 2008 Thompson

    16.0%
  7. Chagaev

    18.0%
  8. Haye

    62.0%
  9. Povetkin

    66.0%
  10. Pulev

    4.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chagaev's power shouldn't be rated highly because over a 5+ year and 9 fight run from J. Ruiz to Manswell (who Stiverne had previously obliterated in 2 and who Wilder would destroy in 1), he stopped no one and I don't think he even scored a KD. The best opponent he ever stopped was probably Sprott in 8. He pulled out of the Ibragimov unification due to having Hep B. Chag was a 5'11 fat cruiser plodder: how would he track down a defensive Joshua? Even Sprott said: "Chagaev is easy to hit for a southpaw". Great amateur, very mediocre pro.
     
  2. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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    Some of the worst contenders in heavyweight history on this list, most of these fighters wouldn`t even get a title shot in today`s heavyweight division, thank God Fury beat Wlad.
     
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  3. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's ironic you describe Joshua as scared, yet he actually stopped Wlad and at least had the balls to step in with Usyk. Unlike some...
     
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  4. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    There isn't 5 on that list
     
  5. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    The dross bros gave us the worst period of HW boxing ever
     
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  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Peter, Haye, and Brewster are the only ones with a realistic chance.
     
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  7. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    I wouldn't bet on any of them besides maybe Povetkin (not the crappy Povetkin that fought Wlad, but the beast that went on the killing spree shortly after) and Byrd (who always gave bigger fighters trouble if they couldn't match him speed for speed). Peter might be a bit of a wild card considering how dangerous and tough he was for the very brief window he was world class.

    Haye was an overrated POS. No way he beats any version of Joshua minus an extremely green version.
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Wlad shutout the same guy who beat Takam. Deal with it.
     
  9. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Povetkin or Peter the only ones with a decent chance here imo.
     
  10. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A 32 yr old Wlad destroys Joshua.
    Probably even a 36 yr old Wlad does, too
     
  11. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A motivated, in shape, and well trained Sanders would be trouble for any heavyweight in history. Period
     
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  12. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    I agree with that.
     
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  13. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was much more difficult to outpoint Wlad than to stop him, hence three guys stopped him before Joshua (including a journeyman) and all did it quicker than Joshua did in London but only one man outpointed him in 69 fights. No one won more than 9/36 rounds against Wlad on the official cards prior to Fury winning 25/36 in Germany.

    Joshua did boxed scared against Ruiz 2; a much shorter, stubbier, lighter punching and relatively untrained opponent with slow feet. He lost a lot of confidence post-Wlad and a lot more post-Ruiz 1.

    Fury's scheduled to fight Usyk next, with Fury coming directly off a career worst performance at that. If he pulls out then you can crow with legitimacy.
     
  14. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was a Wlad-conqueror, so like 2004 Brewster he's not applicable. Everyone would choose Sanders automatically, most as their first pick.

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/corrie-sanders-best-wins-and-career-analysis.711676/

    "Corrie Sanders is probably the most dangerous one-round fighter in heavyweight history." - Emanuel Steward
     
  15. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd pick neither version, though 2012 Wlad did a far better job on Thompson than 2008 Wlad. 2014 Wlad had just sparred with a young Joshua going into the Pulev fight so that's the version I'd pick.