Choose the GREATEST displays of all boxing aspects from the last 20 years...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by horst, Dec 9, 2010.


  1. horst

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    Yes.

    Without doubt.

    The number 1.

    The Nonpareil.

    I have seen hundreds of boxing matches, maybe even more than that, and this is my undisputed choice for the greatest exhibition of offensive skills I have ever witnessed.

    I was not being flippant when I said that, I have considered it long and hard, and I am very sure of it. JMHO.

    In that fight we have one of the true elite skillsets of boxing history producing an utterly jaw-dropping display for 12 rounds.

    Whitaker doesn't box from the outside well, he doesn't fight inside well, he doesn't jab well, he doesn't throw hooks well, he doesn't throw uppercuts well, he doesn't throw bodyshots well, he doesn't use good footwork...


    ...he does every single ****ing thing absolutely STUPENDOUSLY BRILLIANTLY!!!!! He throws every single punch in the book in that fight, his combinations are insane. Poetry.

    I think you are horrendously underrating that showing judging by this appallingly stinking list of alternatives below.

    I am going to report you for crimes against boxing I think!!

    Doesn't come anywhere even remotely close to Pea-Buddy in terms of punch variety and technique. Not even close. Plus Williams was not a great fighter, which lessens the impressiveness of torching him.

    Doesn't come anywhere even remotely close to Pea-Buddy in terms of punch variety. It's a fight in a phonebooth. It's perhaps my favourite ever example of infighting, but it does not even rival Pea-McGirt for the sheer range of skills shown by Whitaker.

    OK, you just threw this one in for a joke, right? :admin

    If I thought a top fighter using an overmatched, cherrypicked opponent for a punchbag was the greatest ever exhibition of boxing I'd ever seen, I would indeed hand myself in for crimes against boxing!! :nono

    Opposition must count for something, otherwise the greatest exhibition of boxing ever could be a sparring session between Roy Jones and some guy that worked at his gym.

    Gatti was no McGirt. And a hand-selected, weight-drained, past his sell-by date Gatti certainly was no McGirt. :lol:

    A legitimate contender of course, the only one you have listed as I see it, but I still prefer the way Whitaker integrates his all-round game into an offensive display as he does vs Buddy, and I still think his punch variety is better than SRR's in these two fights. However, I wouldn't quibble with anyone who preferred this fight.

    A sublime display, but Margarito never had the defence of Buddy McGirt. Pacquiao tattooed Margo with punches for 12 rounds = mightily impressive. Whitaker tattooed McGirt with punches for 12 rounds = for me, another level of impressive. JMO.

    I feel about this much the same way as I do about Ali-Williams, I think it's a great performance, but I don't believe it has anywhere near the aesthetic merits of Pea-McGirt. Louis does not unleash a sustained, virtuoso display of every punch imaginable - not to the same extent, in my own opinion.

    I think this is the greatest win achieved by any boxer in history, but that's not synoymous with the greatest offensive performance ever. Much like Chavez-Rosario, this is just a truly awesome example of infighting, but an exhibition of offence should exhibit every aspect of offence. You could argue this fight does that, but I don't think it matches Pea-McG II.


    Pea does everything in that fight, he throws every punch, he does everything exceptionally.

    Genuinely, no other fight I can think of exceeds it in that regard. None. And as you know, there are fighters I personally prefer to Pea (Duran, Pacquiao and Toney to name but three).

    That fight just blows my mind!! :good
     
  2. horst

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    Yawn.

    I chose the best and worst examples that I've seen, irrespective of weight class. I don't write for an encyclopedia, this list is highly, highly subjective, and nowhere did I state or portray any different.

    If you disagree with my choices, name me some better alternatives rather than whining and moaning over mine. :good
     
  3. horst

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    Two very solid alternatives, good shout :good
     
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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:



    and you still didn't answer the question :rofl
     
  5. horst

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    Yawn. Yet more shitty little posts from one of the most dismal trolls to ever grace this forum. :dead:dead:dead
     
  6. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    and he still couldn't answer the question :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    fragile popkins would make a great politician :lol:

    only he'd have to read his collection of ring comics before he could make a statement :rofl
     
  7. horst

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    The steady stream of horrendously boring and childish posts this moron makes is similar to the steady discharge of semen he suffers every Sunday - Headbanger being the anal creampie of ESB. :smoke
     
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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    fragile popkins ducks the question for a 5th time :rofl
     
  9. Roy jones worst jab ? U couldnt be talking about the one that was nailing pazienza with triple and quadruple jabs and haye does not have the worst stamina and im one of the biggest haye haters
     
  10. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    It is certainly not going to be the most conclusive list in the world, and I can pretty much see you tearing it to pieces Popkins. However lets get going!

    PUNCHING POWER: Julian Jackson
    Example: Herol Graham (1990)
    Runner-Up: George Foremann.

    HANDSPEED: Shane Mosley
    Example: His entire career prior to the first Forrest fight.
    Runner-Up: Meldrick Taylor, Roy Jones jr, Manny Pacquiao

    FOOTSPEED: Roy Jones Jr
    Example: James Toney fight (1994)
    Runner-Up: Manny Pacquiao

    COMBINATION-PUNCHING: Marco Antonio Barrera
    Example: Kennedy McKinney (1996)
    Runner-Up: Pernell Whitaker, Ricardo Lopez, Oscar de la Hoya, Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao (we have had some brilliant combination punchers recently) :bbb

    FOOTWORK: Bernard Hopkins
    Example: Felix Trinidad (1999)
    Runner-Up: Manny Pacquiao

    JAB: Oscar de la Hoya
    Example: Julio Cesar Chavez (1996)
    Runner-Up: Ike Quartey, Pernell Whitaker, Winky Wright, Lennox Lewis.

    INFIGHTING: James Toney
    Example: Iran Barkley (1993)
    Runner-Up: Julio Cesar Chavez

    CHIN: Ricardo Mayorga
    Example: He may have got KOed a few times in the end but every fight of his was a chin parade.
    Runner-Up: Oliver McCall, Wayne McCullough

    DEFENCE: Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Example: Diego Corrales (2001)
    Runner-Up: Pernell Whitaker, James Toney, Bernard Hopkins, Winky Wright

    MENTAL STRENGTH: Bernard Hopkins
    Example: Felix Trinidad (1999)
    Runner-Up: Floyd Mayweather Jr, Pernell Whitaker

    STAMINA: Manny Pacquiao
    Example: Antonio Margarito (2010)
    Runner-Up: Shane Mosley

    PHYSICAL STRENGTH: Shane Mosley
    Example: Antonio Margarito (2009)
    Runner-Up: Wladimir Klitschko

    COUNTERPUNCHING: Erik Morales
    Example: Manny Pacquiao (2005)
    Runner-Up: Floyd Mayweather Jr, James Toney
     
  11. horst

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  12. horst

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    You ranked Froch miles higher than Kessler immediately after Kessler had beaten him fair and square = you have no credibility, gimp :nono
     
  13. horst

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    :lol: Actually I think your choices are very good. I don't believe Morales-Pacquiao 1 is one of the best counterpunching displays, and I don't believe a guy who has been stopped as many times as Mayorga has deserves to be the best chin when the utterly invincible Wayne McCullough was around in the same era, but other than that thanks for a quality contribution (though the Hopkins-Tito fight was actually in 2001) :good
     
  14. HEADBANGER

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    fragile popkins ignores my question for the 6th time :lol:

    the reason was because i scored the fight to froch and he did it in kesslers back yard. then you look at his wins over pascal, taylor, dirrell, and abrahams and it looks like i was uncannilly wise. that is because i'm not an ignorant, narrow minded hbo puppett like you who just repeats everything they read in ring comic :deal

    on the other hand, you ranked chad dawson has number 4 on your p4p list with your trade mark ignorance, that was before carl froch victim pascal dethrowned him :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    so, for the 7th time fragile popkins, where do you rank chad dawson on your p4p list these days? :rofl
     
  15. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Arguello vs Pryor 2 ?
    Duran vs Leonard 2 ?
    Chavez v DLH 2 ?

    All of these fighters did similar things at the end of their careers & all have proven themselves to be 100% strong in the will department thru their careers.... at least those guys were not made to come in half dead at a weight they could not make anymore. When you have nothing left to give, its all over & thats that.