Chris Algieri the new Sxy Sergio?

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  1. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly.WTF is with these closet "dudes" coming out recently.At the very most this thread belongs in the MMA fan boys forum.FFS!:patsch
     
  2. mbandit

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    WTF? Angulo ain't pure white:huh:huh
     
  3. mbandit

    mbandit Active Member Full Member

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    Also, Martinez, Abregu, and Matthysse look more meztizo than white.
     
  4. mbandit

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    Agreed!
     
  5. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Appears it's a boxing forum filled with Gimps who should have got they Gimp legs fixed when they were born.
    -Evander Holyfield
     
  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Martinez has a Spanish father and Greek mother, he's White.
    Lucas is French he's White.
    Abregu is Spanish or Italian he's White.
    Chino's mother is Chinese and father White.

    Angulo looks debateable, however most of his facial features appear to be Spanish.

    You do realise that Spanish people are white don't you.

    Just because your skin may tan easily that doesn't mean you are Mestizo.
    They're are alot of different facial structures that make up white, Slavic, Germanic, Latin, Arab, Persian, Semitic, and varying skin colors as well.

    It depends on skull structure which is Caucasiod, it has nothing to do with skin color. that depends on where you are born the body evolves over time to adjust to the climate you live in, if you live in a hot climate your body evolves to tan more efficiently. That is why Scandinavians don't tan very well, yet Mediterraneans tan easily.

    Based on mitochondrial DNA the Irish and some English are direct genetic descendents of Spain they all contain the same R1b strain that evolved from Ria which is found predominately in Russia. Also English as a language is primarily based around Latin which came from the Spainish who colonized the British Isles 1000's of years ago. So English people genetically could also be considered partially Latino.

    Also American Indians if you want to get really specific were a mutation from White. Whites and Asians arose from the same area around the Caucasus' in Russia, because of the intense sunlight that reflected from the tundra in Siberia it caused people to squint their eyes, which evetually cause the muscle to give out in their eyes through evolution causing an epicanthic fold, Asian eyes. American Indians left across the land Bridge to the Americas somewhere between the evolution from White to Asian, they originally had white skin which evolved to dark reddish skin because the intense heat of the Americas caused it to darken.
     
  7. spopovich

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    Wow that explanation sounds suspect as does much of what you've said. Not saying that there isn't research to back you up but I'm really skeptical. Matthysse definitely looks like he has some indigenous blood in him but you proclaimed that hes pure white. Once again, you could be right. But you seem to have an agenda.
     
  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Do some research most of what I said is backed up. Matthysse looks to pretty French, some French can look swarthy, but I can't claim to know every drop of blood in his system.

    I don't have an agenda, I just get sick of the confusion about ethnicity and race on this site. No one seems to know nationality from ethnicity from race from language. I thought I would try to clarify some misconceptions.

    I could explain the entire history of Australoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid skull structure, and the DNA strains in every continent of every race, if it would ,make you feel better.
     
  9. spopovich

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    The reason I said it sounded suspect was this bit you said here : "because of the intense sunlight that reflected from the tundra in Siberia it caused people to squint their eyes, which evetually cause the muscle to give out in their eyes through evolution causing an epicanthic fold, Asian eyes."

    Excessive squinting would definitely not be the cause of the change. If anything, those individuals born with asian eyes (due to random mutation) would be able to better cope with the intense brightness of the environment and hence be more likely to leave behind offspring. This would cause the asian eyes to become a prominent feature in populations in that area rather than the act of squinting by people with non asian eyes.
     
  10. CST80

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    The sun reflecting on the ice a very light surface is very bright in Siberia caused excessive squinting, which eventually led to a mutation in the eyes to accomodate that, also it could be the eyes needed extra protection from the UV rays leading to the genetic mutation.There are quite a few theories but this one seems the most logical.

    The epicanthic fold is present in many non Asian people like the Samoyed in Scandinavia like Renee Zellweger. Also the Bushmen from South Africa.

    I was trying to make a point that Asians evolved from Whites and Native Americans are the midway point in that transition, which is why there is slight epicanthic fold that exists in them.
     
  11. spopovich

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    I know it seems like I'm just nitpicking but this is an important point. Mutations don't happen in response to the environment. Mutations are random. The traits that come from these mutations can increase fitness which many times dictates if they persist in a population or not. That is evolution 101. So when you say something like squinting caused the change through evolution or "mutation.. to accommodate" it brings your credibility on the subject into question. Plus, I feel supremely confident that Lucas Matthysse and Angulo have at least some indigenous blood in them. Even Martinez, who looks the "whitest" the bunch almost certainly has some indigenous blood. Thats why I'm skeptical about your statements.
     
  12. mbandit

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    I am perfectly aware of this and understand the difference between race/ethnicity/nationality. They just don't seem to be pure white and their ancestors may have mixed with natives hence they could very well be mestizo.

    My last name originated from Asturia/Galicia, my Great Grandparents on my dad's mom side came from Portugal, but my parents are Mexican and from my mothers side I have no knowledge of their specific origins past 2-3 generations. I am mestizo.

    They could have European ancestry as I do but it may be generations back and Native/European admixture may have taken place all while retaining some of their Europeans genes and surname, hence not being pure white.
     
  13. Scar

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    I'm assuming only women and gays would care about that information.
     
  14. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed. I'm also skeptical about some of his statements, I wouldn't take them as facts. Maidana's mother doesn't look Chinese to me for example. He's stating things with a lot of certainty but not giving any sources.
     
  15. CST80

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    Yes mutations are random but they can also be influenced by factors in the environment. Do you really think the enviroment had nothing to do with the existence of the wooly mammoth and the excessive fur on animals in cold areas. I'm sure the environment had nothing to do with people living in tropical climates being able to tan better, its a mutation in their genotype that allows this. Why are people from Russia bulky they adapted to their environment. M1 mutation in Black people made their skin dark to accomodate the intense sun in Africa.

    The very defintion of evolution is gradual adapting to the environment, I'm also trying to dumb things down and not be to obnoxious.

    Lucas and Angulo maybe even Martinez may very well possess some indigenous blood, but I would also call that nitpicking. Spanish people are very diverse in their looks many people from Spain have alot of indigenous features which would be impossible since they don't have Native Americans in Spain.