Chris Arreola vs David Haye: can Haye beat even this HW?

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  1. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    25 votes for Arreola? Are you guys kidding? :-(

    Arreola stops a prospect who can't handle pressure at all and has a weak chin, so he deserves this type of hype? A stoppage of Witherspoon shouldn't change anything. Arreola still isn't even a prospect, he's a C level out-of-shape brawler with little natural ability, little skill, horrible defense, overrated power, and a shaky chin who will be beaten as soon as he takes any kind of real step up. Haye would destroy him, easily.
     
    huki, Jun 22, 2008
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  2. fitzgeraldz

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    Arreola isn't world class ... I wish Povetkin wasn't the IBF mandatory challenger because it would nice to see him build himself up by taking that WBA strap from the winner of Valuev v Chegaev.
     
    fitzgeraldz, Jun 22, 2008
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  3. JMP

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    arreola was lucky he wasnt in with chazz's uncle in his prime
     
    JMP, Jun 22, 2008
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  4. fitzgeraldz

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    Povetkin would give Haye trouble -- his workrate, chin, speed, and edurance would give anyone trouble.

    I think they're around the same size too w/ Haye being a bit more toned ... it would be difficult for Haye (who has endurance issues) fighting a guy that won't stop coming and is fighting at a fierce pace ... ready to go the full 12 and some.
     
    fitzgeraldz, Jun 22, 2008
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  5. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    Hey its just me, I've been saying Arreola would KO Haye long before this fight. I just think he can. I'm not hyping Arreola up but I just think the guy is rugged in there enough to make Haye wish he could easily make 190lbs again lol. Again, This isn't hype its just something I think could happen.:lol:
     
    jecxbox, Jun 22, 2008
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  6. huki

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    The chances of that happening are extremely low though. It's just amazing how many people are impressed with Arreola.
     
    huki, Jun 22, 2008
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  7. fitzgeraldz

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    Haye has power too and he's waaay faster than Arreola ... and he can box very well.
     
    fitzgeraldz, Jun 22, 2008
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  8. fitzgeraldz

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    Haye has also see many different types of fighters throughout his boxing career (pro or amateur) ...
     
    fitzgeraldz, Jun 22, 2008
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  9. TFFP

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    The results of this poll are a complete joke. Beating Witherspoon isn't more impressive than knocking out Bonin with jabs. Look at his defence and punching technique for christ sake, he's a real club fighter. No chance he beats a quick fighter with one punch power and great amateur pedigree like that.
     
    TFFP, Jun 22, 2008
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  10. fitzgeraldz

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    Not true at all Flux ... I think Haye has what it takes against any American but he doesn't stand a chance against a discipline fighter from the former Solviet school of boxing. (Klitschko)
     
    fitzgeraldz, Jun 22, 2008
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  11. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    I'm not calling Haye a bum. But he hasn't sold me as someone who can take what a heavyweight can dish out. Even a "Mayorga" like club fighter like Arreola to me has what it takes to hurt Haye. It goes both ways.

    Let me ask you this. Lets say Haye CAN'T knockout or knockdown Arreola. Who will win the fight? Could Haye make it 12 rounds against a Heavyweight that could throw down like that? C'mon guys Arreola isn't aesthetically pleasing but he is like 250lbs and really gets leverage into all his wild shots. The guy is a maniac, Haye in my mind could never make it 12 with this guy if he couldn't KO him. It's not hype, I just haven't bought into Haye as a heavyweight yet.
     
    jecxbox, Jun 22, 2008
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  12. Arriba

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    Yeah by boxing and moving around against the slow flat footed stonehenge-esque Arreola.
     
    Arriba, Jun 22, 2008
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  13. Mendoza

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    Arreola isn't skilles, fast or good on defense, but he is tough, hits hard and comes to fight. I think he would TKO Haye.
     
    Mendoza, Jun 22, 2008
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  14. RUSKULL

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    Yes I did. Klitschko is faster of hand & foot. His 1-2 is the fastest I've seen from any recent HW. Oh, and I did say he's stronger too..............
     
    RUSKULL, Jun 24, 2008
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  15. RUSKULL

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    My mistake then, musta' drank too much before posting. :yep
     
    RUSKULL, Jun 24, 2008
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