I like how no one can appreciate Arreola for what he is because he's 1) Modern and 2) Physically the anti-thesis of what a boxer should be. The complete black and whiteness of the matter makes me wonder what the **** is wrong with some of you people. :huh:huh
Mercer had 16 fights to Tommy's 28, and beat him handedly. I've watched that fight several times, and while Tommy looked good early, he lost once Mercer actually started fighting back. Ruddock was washed up when Morrison beat him, yet he still got decked. The Foreman of 93 wasn't the same Foreman of 90-91, and Moorer had George outboxed more convincingly than Morrison did, before he got lazy and careless in the 10th. I'll still give Tommy the Foreman win as he brilliantly adjusted his style for ONE night only to take advantage of a much slower ( and probably complacent ) aging opponent. I also agree that the Duke was exciting to watch and had many enjoyable evenings .. But my point is that we can't place him on some high pedistal over Arreola or too many others. At the end of the day, his opposition was weak, his record padded, and his struggles with lesser fighters significant.
According to Mercer, Tommy's body punches had him farting in the ring. You've got to wonder what kind of effect they'd have on Arreola's big, fat stomach. Especially that left hook.
Durability wins here. Arreola has it; Morrison did not. One can rightly claim that Morrison's effort against Hipp proved he could display heart. But he did so with an infirmary's worth of injuries… against not exactly a top rate talent. He was just a bit too fragile.
Good match! I instantly thought of Morrison vs. Hipp. Hipp gave Morrison hell but Morrison was able to stop him in the 9th round. I think Arreola is better than Hipp was though. Morrison was quick, had awesome power (especially in that left hook), he was athletic. He was knocked out 3 times. Once by Lennox Lewis in the 6th round, once by Ray Mercer in the 5th round (after using Mercer for a punching bag for 3 1/2 rounds), and once by Michael Bentt in the 1st round (3 KD rule). Bentt played Sonny Liston in the movie Ali. His chin wasn't great but it was probably better than most remember. He took good shots from Carl Williams and Razor Ruddock among others and went on to KTFO out of them. He won a 12 round decision vs. Foreman. Sure, he ran, but he got hit a few times as well. Arreola has a good chin but a man can only take so much. Arreola isn't exactly a huge puncher either. Arreola has decent power, but isn't on the level with Lewis, Foreman, Ruddock, or even Williams IMO.
You ****ing tards' act like he's morbidly obese when the truth is far closer to him being a chubby fighter who can still maintain a high work rate, such as Juan Diaz, or if you want to talk about a fighter who was quality over a shorter distance, Willie Mehan. Same people that think Arreola is a useless tub will will lament what an iron chinned, deceptive in appearance puncher Tony Galento was. As a matter of fact, I'm throwing down the ****ing gauntlet. I'm sick of this constant furious circle jerk in Classic. Explain to me how Galento is the farthest thing from a running joke on this forum, and is often spoken of in a almost always positive manner. He was a heavy drinking, chubby heavyweight with a punch and a great chin. Somehow tubby **** Galento knocked down some peoples number one heavyweight of all time in Joe Louis. This content is protected This content is protected This forum has changed from actual contemplative and interesting conversation to hero worshiping and an inability in any way shape or form appreciate anything current or in the near past :-(
Galento challenged Louis and actually dropped him, Arreola was crying after the Vitali fight and he was outboxed by Adamek Stop making Arreola into something he isnt. If a fighter is due accolades, he gets them. If Galento is getting praised and Arreola isnt, maybe its because Arreola is just ****
Morrison was flashy but not nearly as effective as he is being made out to be. I lived front and center through Morrison's career. Every fight was a tight rope walk, waiting for Morrison to gas or crumble from insignificant blows, hoping that his hook would bail him out. Guys like Yuri Vaulin were hurting him. I really believe Morrison had the physical talent to be a very, very good heavyweight, at least offensively, and even to win a major strap (which the WBO was not at the time), but he was physically fragile and not properly equipped from the neck up. He was never a completed work and always deeply flawed.
Thats true, but what im trying to get at is, how durable is Arreola, Morrison did hit hard, according to Mercer and other guys who fought both Tyson and Lewis. Mercer said Morrison was the hardest puncher he fought. There is a question of durability of Morrisons part im not disputing that. Morrison can dish it and take some (some), Arreola can dish it, but will he be able to take it from Morrison? will Morrisons durability even come into this? Arreola to my knowledge is untested when it comes to durability. Yes he lasted with Vitali, but Vitali is like 40 years old and not quite the puncher he once was (or never was depending on who you speak to) Arreola is the unknown quantity in this fight, we know what Morrison can/cant do.
Using Arreloa's losses against him is rather moot in this match up, as I would pick all three of the men who bested him to beat Morrison.. Not sure I'd pick Michael Bentt to beat Arreola or an 8-8 Ross Purity to fight him to a draw.
Ross Purrity did KO Wladmir so anything is possible. I dont see Adamek beating Morrison, i think Morrison knocks Adamek spark out. Adamek is a very good CW/LH but nothing special at HW, in fact most of his fans will agree that hes become feather fisted at HW and i dont think his durability is all that good either. 40 year old Vitali vs the Morrison who beat Foreman would be interesting (for as long as it lasted) But how would Arreola do against Lewis and 40 year old Foreman and Ray Mercer?