Chris Arreola vs these heavyweight greats

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    So is your argument Vitali is past prime? Simply comparing ages doesn't paint a good comparison. For instance Vitali was a 200lb weakling at 20 years age, while Tyson was HW Champ. At 26yo he was an amateur banned for steroid use, while Lennox was starting his domination of the division. So lets not give Vitali not too much credit for fighting well into later years
     
  2. The Mongoose

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    Vitali has the highest KO win percentage in history. It doesn't matter how many punches it takes or how many rounds..he is a strong finisher. Many of his victims though not all time great contenders are tough fighters that have rarely been stopped if at all despite taking on many fighters of note; Ross Purrity, Vaugh Bean, Larry Donald, Samuel Peter, Orlin Norris, Herbie Hide, Corrie Sanders, have shared the ring with Holyfield, Tyson, Morrison, Bowe, Wlad...etc.
     
  3. mcvey

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    Before the fight I called Arreola a" club fighter" ,I take that back ,he isnt that good he is a " pub fighter."
     
  4. mr. magoo

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    For all of his short cummings, Arreola is at least a big man with a big punch, and has an okay chin.. That has proven to be enough for a lot of guys over the sport's long history. As difficult as it is to admit, Louis, Lewis, Bowe and even Foreman have struggled with men who were on a similar level or lower. It's not unreasonable to think that Chris may have decked some of these guys in a competitive battle..
     
  5. mr. magoo

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    Oh sure, a fighter is just getting his stride at 38, and not to mention after losing 4 years of his career to injuries..:patsch
     
  6. Shake

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    Arreola has stamina, a solid chin and a big heart. I suspect he will go on to be a successful contender for some time. In a division where the pace has slowed on average a man with his workrate should do well.

    That said, he's at a stylistic disadvantage versus a precise outboxer, as his forward drive works against him.

    I honestly do not think, though he is much greater, that Joe Frazier would be able to win against Vitali because they share the same stylistic problems. Tyson would fare much better because of his handspeed.
     
  7. mcvey

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    Its not unreasonable to think that Louis and Foreman ,fighters much more aggressive than the cautious grinder Vitali would shoot the works early and get the fat Mexican out of there quick.
    I dont think his punch is that great ,Ive watched him landing multiple shots on journeyman ,before bringing them down,and he has also been floored by the same standard of fighter.
    He has slow feet, average handspeed ,and no defence,no head movement , allied to a terrible attitude to training.
    He makes Rex Layne look like Jack Dempsey.
     
  8. Quitali Bitchko

    Quitali Bitchko The Punisher Full Member

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    Prime George Foreman KO1 and the Foreman who fought Holyfield KO1
    Riddick Bowe TKO1
    Lennox Lewis KO1
    Mike Tyson KO1
    Ruiz by Big Hug in 1
     
  9. mr. magoo

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    The other side of that argument, is that sometimes launching a very aggressive attack with no respect early against a big puncher, can result in a mistake. Louis was floored early on several occasions as a result of this type of approach. I'm not saying that it would happen of course, but I wouldn't completely rule it out either...
     
  10. mr. magoo

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    hi Suzie :hi:
     
  11. lefthook31

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    Hes gutsy but too limited. He would lose to all of them, but in entertaining fights.
     
  12. Quitali Bitchko

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    Hey how are you :hi:
     
  13. Bummy Davis

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    :good
     
  14. TommyV

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    Foreman clobbers him into submission. Arreola's chin isn't capable of dealing with the brute force and power that Foreman can deliver. KO inside 2 rounds.
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    Too big, too durable and too skilled on the inside. If Arreola manages to close the distance, Bowe rips him with uppercuts and punches until he falls. Stoppage inside 5 rounds.
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    Similar to Bowe. He can keep it at range, better than Bowe could even, move around and box and set-up the stoppage, or take the best Arreola has to offer and brawl and beat him on the inside. I think he takes the first, safer option, and the stoppage comes around round 7/8.

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    Worst match-up of the lot. Arreola doesn't have the mobility or strength to keep Tyson off him or tie him up, and gets hammered with left hooks and uppercuts. KO round 1.

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    The Foreman that fought Holyfield, while old, still had a number of key attributes. He could still bang, he still had a great chin, he still had a good solid jab and he was still immensley strong. With that in mind, Arreola fails to stop him and Foreman would land with that hammer right. Stoppage inside 6 rounds.
     
  15. willcross

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    What's with people now adays over rating Lennox? He's an atg and hell of a fighter. But do you really see him tryin to get chris out of there in 1 or 2 rounds? Thats not the Lennox I remember. He got razor ruddock and micheal grant out of there early but that was far from the norm. I agree with the above poster with lennox winning by ko in 7 or 8.

    It's strange cause it's not like lennox fought 30 years ago and a new generation is idolizing him. These are the same ppl who called him a glass jawed coward who only fought once a year, ducked chris byrd, and held the heavyweight title hostage.