Chris Byrd: The Second Best of His Era?

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I would lean toward yes, actually. He has better accomplishments than Vitali, and was way over the hill by the time he faced Wlad.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Debatable,

    Yes he was past his prime in his second fight with Wlad, but the first time they met, was back in 2000, when Byrd was still going strong, and Wlad was a bit green. Yet, Byrd still lost. The Vitali stoppage was a result of a shoulder injury, and not necessarily a domination. While both Klits fought their fair share of lesser opposition and washed up has beens, so did Chris.

    Nevethelss, in this era, he could very conceivably take the slot you gave him..
     
  3. unitas

    unitas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    could very well may be. all people think of when they talk of byrd are the wladdy fights.

    hell, wlad simply had his number. end of story. but he beat some pretty good fighters like tua and vitaly.

    yes, number two looks right.
     
  4. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    John Ruiz was second best after Lewis.
     
  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    This is how I see it. From 2000-2010, the best fighters were Lewis, Klitschko, Klitschko, then Byrd. Byrd has some good wins. Tua and Holyfield come to mind.

    Povetkin, or the winner between Ibragimov and Chagaev have a chance to pass Byrd for the decade honors depending on who they beat, and how good they look doing it.
     
  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Chris Byrd was NOT a turd.........Period......... :nono
     
  7. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    i would say so he was a very good fighter and an oddity in the heavywieghts to have a 6 foot southpaw middlewieght who used workrate and combo's to win...but his career is an odd one. he is naturally a super middlewieght we almost all know that...but he just seemed to bloom to late. he was fighting to a title but was too slow on the come up. he was fighting club fighter for 10 odd fights then fought b level fighters....but by then he was already in his 30's a real shame becuase at a younger age he was so illusive so hard to hit and would comeback with all types of **** when he countered...like when he landed 10 hit combo's on jameel out of fun.

    is it true he prefers big men to fight?
     
  8. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    You can attempt to make the argument, but he has always had someone prove to be better. So 2nd to whom?

    When he was as his best, Ibeabuchi beat the hell out of him. I liked the way he was trying to perform against Ike, but it just didn't work.

    Then you had Wladamir beat him around 2000, then again in 2006.

    It is true that he like to face larger opponents, or so he always claimed on Tuesday Night Fights. He said that it was so easy to see their punches coming, he felt it made them easy to counter.
     
  9. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    WHHHAT povetkin is almost on the door step of a hall of famer byrd.:huh the guy has had less than 20 fights....im actually exagerating it he has 13 pro fights to his name:think
    anyways apart from prospect tipping....

    byrd was damn good he would totally confuze boxers out hit swarmers slip the big men and stay in the pocket. a very different type of boxing in the heavies at the time...remember no boxer was like him no one fought like this.only toney when he came later had that type of game
     
  10. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    well it did work against ike he was rolling so well made ike look like a baby throwing all these clubbing shots. that left hook you saw was possibly the best left smash i have seen other than ruddock...but it wasnt meant to hit it just landed at the same time chris slipped the otherside...few featherwieght would of seen and reacted to it let alone a heavywieght. then he got up (still hurt no doubt with a ) and stepped on ibeabuchi's foot.ike moved it and byrd slipped.
    then when he was at the stoppage he was on the ropes (where he is natually inclined to go) parrying ,rolling, slipping all the shots waiting for the bell. then the ref comes in:huh to stop it when he has taken only the left uppercut,the right hand and another right hand...he was by far from being a total demolished wreck.

    the tide was turning on the byrd-vitali fight byrd started to land more and slip better...im not saying he was going to knock him out or get a unanimus decision but he did have a claim to earn the win. kinda like lewis vs vitali even if vitali was winning he was going to get beat.

    and the wlad ?uestion. in the first fight he was staying on the outside and tried to outbox him by staying on the outside...which you found out just gave wlad the abilty to throw what ever he wanted from the shorter reaching shorter in stature byrd.

    so in the 2nd fight he came to him trying to backhim up get inside becuase thats his only chance against him but unlike his brother wlad moved back and did ali impressions...byrd just doesnt have the power the reach to give wlad problems but his defencive skills and combo's kept him in but he was just to far past it this time.


    if i had one word of advice to byrd it would be cruiserwieght
     
  11. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Come on CT, you know Byrd is still an active fighter.
     
  12. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    He has a very good resume
     
  13. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    Sorry, cheating don't count when evaluating how good a fighter is. :-(

    In terms of ability, Ruiz is one of the worst - not only of THIS era, but of ALL TIME!!:yep
     
  14. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    horrible fighter but his record i remarkable for a man with is style ...thank you don :fire
     
  15. DK80

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    I think theres still time for Povetkin, Ibragimov, Chagaev, V. Klitschko and Peter to surpass Byrd.