Chris Byrd v Wilder?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, Sep 11, 2024.


Who takes it?

  1. Wilder

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  2. Byrd

    67.9%
  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    You under raté Byrd big time. He was far better than you position him
     
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  2. sauhund II

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    I am not, I saw him coming up on Tuesday night fights and I forgot was it Showtime after Dark or HBO who brought up and comers Heavyweights...............I also remember the Jimmy Thunder stoppage.

    The fact remains that when Byrd stepped up he was either laid out, beaten like a drum or had to get Don King gift decisions, He was never ever a real player at Heavyweight, a paper champ with some ability but feather fisted in watching paint dry fights.
     
  3. Loudon

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    I’m not wearing rose tinted glasses.

    I’ve literally just typed that the win was unsatisfactory and they should have had a rematch.

    I don’t celebrate the win at all.

    I don’t celebrate any wins that are on a technicality.

    But again, Byrd contributed towards that injury with his movement.


    Nobody has said that Byrd was great or that anybody was afraid of him. (although a case can be made that Lennox didn’t want to fight him)


    However, you’re only fixating on Byrd here, whilst completely ignoring Wilder’s many deficiencies.
     
  4. Loudon

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    No.

    When Fury got up, he should still have been considerably ahead on the cards.
     
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  5. Loudon

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    I agree that many referees wouldn’t have given him the chance to have gotten up.

    That’s for sure.

    However, he beat the count fair and square.

    He should have been awarded the win.
     
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  6. NoNeck

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    Went right over your head.

    And the round got scored in case you forgot.
     
  7. sauhund II

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    Earth to Loudon,

    The Judges scores are ABSOLUTE.

    It does not matter how You or I judge a fight...............even at Ringside.

    Chavez/Whittaker, Lewis/Holyfield, De laHoya/Trinidad etc etc etc......................the decisions Judges made in those fights are in the record books forever, full stop and that is all that counts. Fact.
     
  8. Loudon

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    What are you talking about?

    Why was he lucky to have gotten a draw?
     
  9. Loudon

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    Nobody has said otherwise.

    It was still a poor decision though.
     
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  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    1. Jack Reiss said he lost consciousness and gave him abnormal treatment in letting him continue.
    2. Championships virtually never change hands under 12 round, ten point must system fights that feature the challenger getting dropped in separate round ls and the champion not getting dropped, nevermind that both landed fewer than ten punches in virtually all of the rounds.
     
  11. Loudon

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    That was his decision.

    But he gave him a ten count, as per the rules.

    Unless we change how the fights are scored, it shouldn’t matter how many times and when, he was dropped.

    Despite the knockdowns, the majority of people had Fury up on the cards.

    You’ll find that most people believe that Fury was unlucky to have gotten a draw.

    Most people had him winning.
     
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  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    The guys who count did not. Deal with it.
     
  13. Loudon

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    I can deal with it fine.

    I’m just saying that you’re in a minority if you believe that Fury was lucky to have gotten a draw.

    Wilder is the one who was lucky to have gotten a draw.
     
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  14. sauhund II

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    Here again, the "Majority" or " Most people" means Jack..................the Judges had it a DRAW and that is absolute.
     
  15. Loudon

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    I don’t know why you’re being argumentative.

    Byrd has an official win over Vitali.

    Yet I’ve already told you that that can’t be celebrated.