Chris Byrd v Wilder?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, Sep 11, 2024.


Who takes it?

  1. Wilder

    32.1%
  2. Byrd

    67.9%
  1. Dynamicpuncher

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    People who always say Byrd was lucky vs Vitali have never watched the fight its a myth Vitali was dominating Byrd.

    Byrd landed 124 punches at 44 percent connect rate whilst Vitali landed 132 punches at 26 percent connect rate. So overall only 8 punches separated them whilst Byrd landed at a staggering 18 percent more connect rate.

    I also contribute Vitali's shoulder injury to Byrd making him miss and punch at awkward angles.

    Finally what people also forget is Byrd only had 1 weeks notice and was fighting in Vitali's backyard. So Vitali had all the advantages in regards to the size difference, venue, and Byrd being a late replacement.

    No excuses Byrd did very well backed the bigger man up made him miss took away his jab and made him fatigued later on.
     
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  2. Dynamicpuncher

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    Funny how it don't mean nothing when it suits your agenda I guess Lewis vs Holyfield 1 is a legit draw then because that's what the judges had it ? Stop talking nonsense pretty much anyone who has seen Fury vs Wilder 1 knows the decision was dubious Wilder won no more than 3 or 4 rounds. It was a cherry pick gone wrong because Wilder thought Fury wasn't the same fighter after an almost 3 year hiatus in which Fury ballooned up to 300 pounds on a cocaine binge.
     
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  3. NoNeck

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    Try fighting with a torn rotator cuff, chief. And he was still way up.
     
  4. Dynamicpuncher

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    Yes instigated by Byrd as I said making him miss punches.

    Yes the judges had Vitali way up in his backyard of course in reality it was still a very competitive fight that often people mistake that Vitali was dominating when he wasn't and that's backed up by the statistics.
     
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  5. Loudon

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    Was Byrd not responsible for that?

    Also, didn’t you dispute Manny’s shoulder injury against Floyd?
     
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  6. NoNeck

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    No, Byrd was not responsible. It’s a freak injury. I also don’t give the opponent credit for broken hands, twisted ankles, and back injuries.

    Manny entered the Floyd fight with a chronic injury and had full range of motion after the fight, lifting his arms over his head. Range of motion dictates the severity of the injury.

    Vitali tore his during the fight and it was severe. You’re cooked if that happens.

    Yes, I’ve torn my rotator cuff and it still isn’t 100%. It’s nothing like a broken finger or sprained ankle. You’re finished from the moment it tears.
     
  7. Dynamicpuncher

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    How do you know Byrd didn't instigate it ? Didn't Byrd instigate a similar injury vs Holyfield ?
     
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  8. NoNeck

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    Thanks for admitting that you don't actually know that Byrd "caused" the injury and you're just guessing. Is there actually any footage of Byrd doing something special to cause Vitali's injury? As for Holyfield, he was a hard forty and I don't think he got surgery after the Byrd fight.
     
  9. Loudon

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    So Byrd making him miss had absolutely nothing to do with Vitali injuring his shoulder?

    He passed all of the medicals beforehand, he was unable to land flush on Byrd on many occasions, he injured his shoulder during the fight, yet it had nothing to do with Byrd at all?

    Really??

    And Manny had shoulder surgery 5 days after the fight.
     
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  10. Dynamicpuncher

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    Well neither do you you're assuming just like me all I know is the injury seemed to happen randomly in the fight and Byrd has caused 2 similar injuries to 2 different fighters.

    Byrd had all the disadvantages fighting in Vitali's backyard with only 7 days to prepare against a much larger opponent.

    If Vitali couldn't win with all the cards stacked in his favour tough luck I'm afraid.
     
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  11. NoNeck

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    "Salt Water" Pacquaio had a an elective surgery for PR reasons. Range of motion. Celestone (steroid) and Toradol TUE.

    Now go find the footage of Vitali tearing his rotator cuff and post it. If not, it shows that you're so deep in your own agenda that you forgot that the basis of your argument is invented.
     
  12. NoNeck

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    One major card wasn't in his favor, and that's a major injury that "seemed to happen randomly in the fight." I agree with you there.
     
  13. Dynamicpuncher

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    Yes and the injury could've been instigated by Vitali being made to miss punches and punch at awkward angles. If Vitali was that confident why didn't he rematch Byrd ? He was fine calling out Lewis but not Byrd who was active.

    Vitali had every perceivable advantage you could have in a fight and couldn't beat a fighter who had 7 days notice.
     
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  14. NoNeck

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    Pernell Whitaker, Floyd Mayweather, and James Toney=zero torn rotator cuffs instigated

    But that Byrd was #tooslick even if no known footage exists of him causing these injuries.
     
  15. Loudon

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    He had surgery for PR reasons?

    Ha!


    Deep in my own agenda?

    What are you talking about?

    He was fit going into the fight.

    He kept missing.

    He hurt his shoulder.

    Yet you’re adamant that it had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Byrd?

    SMH.
     
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