Byrd was never very mobile. He wasn't a natural HW. . Its why he got completely dominated on the inside by Ibeauchi and Ike wasn't known for having fast feet. He was a bit plodding himself. Foreman was just as dangerous up close as Ibeauchi was.
Foreman was as dangerous up close as anyone in history. I just don't think the older version of him would get up close to the prime version of Byrd.
Great post. This really underlines the argument for Byrd. In Cooney, Foreman managed to find a guy with an even worse defence than Coetzer. Looks like Cooney never heard that a boxer could slip a punch, and he managed to defend all of them with his face. Great job. That three year layoff really helped Gerry. Meanwhile, I could make an omelette in the time it takes for the "fastest ever" version of Old Foreman to throw a punch.
But Foreman had a great ability to cut off the ring and Burt Cooper who has fast feet could not keep Foreman off him.. Name a couple of top guys Byrd beat from range to support that belief??
The George from the Holyfield fight would pummel Byrd. The George who struggled with fighters like Lou Saverese (6 years later!) would lose a decision.
Old Foreman had no great ability to do anything really. Cooper never kept anyone off him. I think he'd beat him the way he beat Tua. Defending and slipping, throwing combos then skipping out of range.
My question was who did beat he beat from range? The answer is nobody. The question is whether Byrd can slip n counter Foreman to a decision for 12 rounds on the inside? Given the fact Foreman had a destructive and utterly savage uppercut , that is more than likely to connect on Byrd , i would say no. Byrd simply cannot shake off those kind of shots. Furthermore , Byrd was totally incapacitated by Wlad jabs. There was nothing he could do with that jab pumped into him repeatedly. He'll have the exact same problems with Foreman's jabs. Tua was a low IQ fighter with no range. He didn't have the punches to exploit Byrd weakspots - the jab and uppercut. Foreman resembles Ibeauchi more than Tua and Ibeauchi turned Byrd inside out. It wasn't a competitive fight . . Foreman would eventually blast Byrd outta there and deep down you know its true.
Why are you asking questions you already have answers to? It isn't entirely inside, he slips and skips with a handful of punches in between. The way he beat Holyfield, Tua, McCline and Williamson. Plenty of film to watch of him to see how he fights. Foreman's jab is not the same as Wlads. Tua had an uppercut. Prime Foreman is a whole lot better than Ibeabuchi and don't try kidding yourself otherwise. If deep down I thought Old Foreman would beat Byrd, I would say Old Foreman beats Byrd. We all know what your agenda is here, in your head this probably is some kind of attack at your hero Wlad.
I wanted you to admit you peddled a falsity , which you did. Tua is 5'10.. Foreman is 6'3... Not only is Foremans uppercut way better and more destructive than Tua's , it would also be far more hard for Byrd to avoid given Foreman size. Wlad jabbed from the outside and Byrd couldn't do nothing about it. Literally nothing. Foreman was one of a kind the way he walked in behind a jab. It blew and battered guys all over the ring. Byrds complete failure to deal with Wlds jab says he would not be able to deal with Foremans. . This is simple logic and common sense. You want to mention McCline and Williamson now , but a while ago you said that version of Byrd as not prime... That Byrd could not beat a faded version of Golota. There's an argument he was even dropped twice in that fight. You're throwing digs now because your logic is falling apart.
Yet he became the oldest HW Champion in the history of the sport.. A record that will likely Never be broken... But you keep convincing yourself he was a geriatric old man on a zimerframe.
What falsity did I peddle? Tua was far quicker than Foreman and much shorter arms, he was more dangerous close up than Old Foreman. Stop banging on about how good Wlad is. Battered which guys lol That version of Byrd isn't prime, but he still to managed to beat old slow fighters like McCline and Williamson. Williamson gave Wlad all manner of hell in their fight. Logic? This is a fantasy fight. One between a prime contender from the 90s against a dinosaur who was 20 years past his best. A dinosaur who 20 years earlier lost a decision to a very negative slippy slidey fighter like Young. As for your other post. I think Moorer is the only ranked fighter he beat in the 90s,but I can't be bothered to look it up. It was a very great victory.
You should go back and watch that fight.. Tua targeted the body all night and neglected the head.. . Foreman would go straight for the head and he would hit the head sooner rather than later. Also , 6'3 >> 5'10
Yes Foreman is bigger than Tua. How does that help him land more shots? And also, who the **** wants to watch any Byrd fights. He was boring as sin and awful to watch. He got told off for lack of activity in his fights.
Byrd struggled and was dominated by big guys and guys with good jabs and uppercuts. Byrd said he would have rather fought Mike Tyson than Wilder. The jab , uppercut , body pinching as well as size , strength and range would naturalise Byrd and make it an impossible fight for him to win Prime Briggs knew he had to hop on his bike against Foreman and the version he fought was nearing 50.
I bet you're one of those who thinks Vitali dominated Byrd up until the stoppage as well. So now it's impossible for Byrd to beat Old Foreman lol. Prime Biggs got an absolute gift against Foreman. But if Morrison and Briggs can find their wheels I've no doubt Byrd could as well.