Chris Eubank (1998) Vs James Toney (2003) at Cruiserweight

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  1. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Peronsally I believe Eubank beats Toney at 168 where they were both closer to their prime but thats too generic. Both men went onto challenge for the Cruiserweight title, with James Toney winning the IBF and Eubank falling short in two fights against Carl Thompson for the WBO

    So who wins this one?

    Toney was able to drop IBF Champion Vasily Jirov in the 12th

    Eubank was able to drop WBO Champion Carl Thompson in the 4th

    Carl Thompson went onto score a stoppage win over David Haye
    Vasily Jirov went onto be stopped by Michael Moorer

    Im taking Eubank by UD
     
  2. pecho26

    pecho26 ESB Lurker Full Member

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    Toney wins by wide ud.
     
  3. Jon Saxon

    Jon Saxon Active Member Full Member

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    Eubank is too much dog for Toney.
     
  4. MAJR

    MAJR Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only way the fight wouldn't go the distance is if one man was forced to retire or the doctor stopped it because of injury since both men had granite jaws and weren't going to be stopped any other way. Personally, I think if both men turn up and perform it would be a highly entertaining fight despite the fact that both would be years out of their prime but there was always the danger in a Eubank/Toney fight of the two men's styles cancelling each other out and turning it into a snooze-fest since neither were high-out-put fighters and both preferred it when their opponent came to them rather than when they had to initiate the action themselves. Overall, however, I'd see Toney taking it in a close SD simply because he seemed to have a slightly higher out-put of punches than Eubank - Eubank prefered to pot-shot and make eye-catching flurries inbetween posturing and playing to the crowd as the showman he was while, as far as I know, Toney was more of a down-to-business style of fighter.
     
  5. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Toney would win in a very close fight.
    I can see Eubank winning one fight if they fought a trilogy
     
  6. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What a lot of people forget, despite Eubank being mentally unable to pull the trigger on his opponents since Watson, James Toney is the one person that would make Eubank snap

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0lpEmsxjHk

    Man Toney made an ass out of himself in that interview
     
  7. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Eubank backed off and did not finish opponents when he had them hurt after that, it was sad. But Toney may have been the man to push his buttons and make him come out of himself. The version of Eubank that fought against Thompson was all washed up, and for that reason though I am picking Toney for a UD win.
     
  8. ApatheticLeader

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    Eubank wouldn't stand a hope in hell. None. At all.

    Toney does EVERYTHING better than Eubank. He even has a better chin. Eubank lost twice against Carl Thompson for God's sake. Thompson was exciting as hell, but very, very limited. This is a man who got utterly outclassed by Johnny Nelson.

    Eubank vs Toney would not be a fair contest.
     
  9. Longcount

    Longcount boxing Full Member

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    :lol:

    I honestly don't know why I bother with this forum sometimes.
     
  10. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    Did Thompson not get outclassed by Johnny Nelson?

    Does Toney not have a better chin than Eubank? Was Toney skill level not proven against better opponents than Eubank's across a range of divisions?

    Help me out here. Teach me the error of my ways.
     
  11. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney no doubt Eubank didnt have much left in him at that time.
     
  12. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chris Eubank went 21 rounds with Nigel ****ing Benn, How does Tony have a better chin? Even when he was past it he was only stopped by a swollen eye

    Truth is James Toney is not knocking Eubank out and probably vice versa (Although id see Toney touching the canvas)

    Toney lost to the likes of Montel Griffin and Drake Thadzi . . . who the **** is Thadzi?

    James Toney is the most over rated fighter on this forum :lol:
     
  13. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    Don't forget Toney got a gift decision against Dave Tiberi, and fought the likes of Sanderline Williams and Merqui Sosa to life and death decisions. But put him in any fantasy match up and apparently he wins easy :lol::rofl:patsch

    As long as there's stringent drug testing in place so we can ensure Toney isn't cheating and using steroids as we know he liked to do, this is a very close and hard fight to call
     
  14. ApatheticLeader

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    Benn couldn't punch at 168 and was one-dimensional and frankly, stupid at 160.

    Thadzi was a better pro than Schommer, who Eubank got outclassed against but somehow got the decision.

    Don't go into the "who had more poor performances against poor opposition"? route. You WILL get trounced.
     
  15. ApatheticLeader

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    See above.

    And Sanderline Williams gave a lot of good fighters hell. Including Benn.