Chris Eubank describing his training

Yep, they do. Every single one of them.

 

awsome.

can you post their training routines? or just post some names? and i can search for their training routines myself

 

Yep, here's one right here

 

thats what i figured.

thanks for disproving your point.

 

There are a large number of fighters who are successful in spite of the way they train, not because of it. Eubank obviously busted his arse in training, but it should be common knowledge by now that what he was doing was not the most efficient way to train.

It amazes me to this day that people still espouse the idea of running multiple miles at 5am, and doing endless rounds on the jump rope (there's a guy in another thread that's supposed to do 12 rounds every day??) and speedball, meanwhile, weights make you bulky and slow, if you're going to do them you should use insanely light weights and do a ridiculous number of reps to build up your stamina. Core strength is all about the crunches, do 500 of them, then drop a medicine ball on your gut. It's crap, and it's idiotic routines like this that perpetuates it.

 

where did u get this info from ? for all i know you could of wrote that yourself ?

 

so name a atg that follows a smart routine.

 

Calzaghe and Tyson had pretty decent training habits, actually. So does Pacquiao for the most part. Hell, a lot of them did.

Eubank's training was crazy in many ways, but then again so is Eubank :yep

There was a clip on youtube (I think it's the documentary on the buildup to the first Benn fight) were a guy recalls interviewing Eubank like 2 weeks before a fight and offering him a glass of water. Eubank goes "Are you crathzy?"

A lot of great fighters succeeded in spite of the stupid things they did in training. I think, though, that a lot of that stuff, while not based on sound exercise principles, gave them a certain mental edge which may have helped them more than exercising properly would have.

But then there's the rest of us who aren't ever going to be ATGs. Those guys are/were different kinds of people.

 

great question , all the guys did the daily morning runs.:yep

But boxing is anerobic they cry, but its both anerobic and serobic isnt it ?

Its easy to say this is the absoloute correct way to do something for boxing, but as you are inferring it seems to me also that the best simply dont this !

 

Calzaghe and Tyson had old style habits and did nothgin liek Mr Ross says to do

 

Just curious what do you think Ross says you should do?

 

Calzaghe used to do hill runs frequently for his morning roadwork, along with sprints. Most of his work in the gym was shadowboxing, mitts, and bagwork, with light sparring. He didn't jump rope much because Enzo (correctly) said that fighters just use the rope to take a break. Which infers that the training that they did was fairly intense. Which is basically the main principle that Ross advocates--Intensity.

There's a difference between old school habits and stupid habits. A fighter not using weights and doing long runs in the morning is old school. Eubank not eating or drinking for days at a time is a stupid habit. Ricky Hatton using a personal trainer who had him doing a bodypart split weight routing is a stupid habit. Ali running in combat boots is an example of a stupid old school habit.

There's nothing wrong with old school training as long as it's tweaked a bit with principles we've learned over time. :good

 

Morning runs are not stupid...Ross advocates them as does just about any other trainer in the world.

The advice on this forum is geared toward amateur fighters. We fight for 6-9 minutes, and we get two 1 minute breaks. That means our sport is HIGHLY anaerobic, and really not aerobic at all (though I think that having a high level of aerobic fitness helps with recovery between rounds). Furthermore, the scoring system is such that the fighter who throws more punches is usually the fighter that wins. So it makes sense for amateurs to train hard and intense for short durations.

A pro fighter from way back in the day had to be conditioned to fight for 45 minutes. That means that their sport was HIGHLY aerobic. How far can a person who's in shape run in that time? At 6min/mile, over 7 miles. There's your answer for why old school pros did LSD running--because it worked for their sport.

Pros today fight for 36 minutes. At six min/mile, that's 6 miles, which incidentally is the distance most pros today typically run. Calzaghe's morning run was usually six miles. Froch does six with hill sprints and intervals. Abraham does six miles. Pretty much everybody does. And most top modern fighters incorporate sprint days to alternate between their long runs, because boxing also has high aerobic demands. The Klitschkos do 800m intervals. The list goes on.

The Rocky movies basically put a picture in everyone's mind of some dude in a dirty basement or barn doing bodyweight exercises, throwing rocks, running up mountains, and doing all sorts of crazy stuff being the way a 'real fighter' trains (as opposed to a guy running on a track, lifting weights, and using an incline treadmill). But that's all good training.

In my case (and I suspect it's the case with most trainers and fighters who are against using weights) I get all the work I can handle from my running and gym sessions. As an amateur, power isn't nearly as important to me as workrate. Furthermore, I want to maintain my weight. If I run in the morning 6 days a week and work out in the gym at night 6 days a week, there's to a lot of room for weights. Weight lifting is great, it's fun, and it's useful for boxing, but it takes a back seat to my other goals and priorities. This is why you see people saying don't use weights. There's nothing wrong with them, it's just better for most of us to use our time and energy for other forms of training.

 

This.

For guys like Eubank it's all about having your balls busted in the gym so that when it comes to the 11th round of a fight and you've just had your balls busted, mentally you are still in the fight. You've been there, you know what it feels like.

 

And yes, I seriously did just blame a movie for most of the ignorance on this forum. What.