Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn & Steve Collins....

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  1. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    only in amateur .. in professional boxing Jones jr was beaten by Glen Johnson, and guess who have beaten prime Glen Johnson? ..... Sven Ottke!

    Also guess who have beaten Collins ... it was Reggie Johnson who
    was later beaten by Tarver who was beaten by Johnson, who was beaten by Ottke.

    The blueprint is clear: Sven > .... Jones Jr ..... > Collins > Eubank > Benn
     
  2. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Benn for sure, in the US-based HOF. He will be in.
     
  3. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think any of them have ironclad HOF resumes, and they would need to be in the right place at the right year to get inducted. The problem for them is that there are a bunch of fighters from the same era around the same weight that you could make decent argument for.

    Benn probably has the best chance with the US-centric voters, due to his wins over McClellan and Barkley. If Benn got in, Eubank stands a pretty good chance of getting in vicariously, due to his win over Benn and long unbeaten streak.

    Collins is a long shot, and doesn't deserve to get inducted ahead of Kalambay or Johnson, neither of whom seems a likely inductee.
     
  4. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I dont think Collins would have beaten the eubanks of 90-93 as it was he eeked out close wins over a lazy lacking hunger eubanks.

    Equally i think the benn who fought collins was shot mentally and no longer had the hunger and body to give a f.

    So I take Collins out of the picture. Collins was no more really than a good top twelve guy in the rich pickings of the Middleweight scene of 89-93 and a paper champ of a depleted 168 scene in 95-97.

    The Benn of post watson 89-90 was a fast ferocious power punching brawler who lacked stamina and pacing. The 92-95 guy was all of what he was in 89-90 with excellent stamina, a superior bob and weave crouching defence and a superb sense of pacing. By todays standards I think of all 3 of them he is the clearest hall of famer. I dont pay too much credence to his two losses to collins where he basically quit in 2 fairly evenish brawls and likewise i think he won the 93 rematch with Eubanks.

    No way Eubanks is a Hall of famer. Not a chance he never fought one A or B level american based fighter. Not Mclellan, Jones, Johnson, Toney,Barkley, Jackson, Mccallum, Hopkins .....no one.
     
  5. Hattons Hook

    Hattons Hook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spot on apart from Ray Close and Tony Thornton were credible yanks Eubank beat.
    Loved Benn's bobbing and weaving style when he got up to 168 :good
     
  6. irishny

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    Well actually a fight was all but agreed with the Jones camp, for Collins to come out of retirement,have a warm up fight and then fight him.

    Collins collapsed in training and stayed retired.

    And lets be fair. Aas much as Collins was my hero as a kid, RJJ completely destroyed Johnson who had beaten(albeit in a tough fight) Collins
     
  7. irishny

    irishny Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Ray Close was Irish
     
  8. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Lindell Holmes was very, very good.
     
  9. McGuinty

    McGuinty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes but they offered him the fight after Collins retired. Jones wanted nothing to do with him.
     
  10. Hattons Hook

    Hattons Hook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Was he ? **** shows what i know :oops:
     
  11. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    great fighters fighting on the world stage rarely give gift fights to those who dont roll the same dice to challenge them on equal footing
     
  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    All deserve a place in the HOF

    3 top SMWs that were badly ducked by others but brave enough to fight each other
     
  13. irishny

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    Serio, do you think Jones was scared of the man that Johnson beat?
     
  14. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe Cortez and Rocky Balboa made it to the HOF. :lol: All three Eubank, Benn and Collins need to well ahead of Rambo. All three are 2 weight world champions.
     
  15. DaveyboyEssexUK

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    Michael Watson at his sharpest was better than the rest, just so unfortunate