Chris Eubank Sr explains how to beat GGG (Fascinating video)

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  1. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Which is exactly why your initial use of Holy vs Tyson is pointless, genius. Holyfield didn't just "stand up to a bully" and "stand his ground"...he outsmarted a one dimensional fighter that was throwing haymakers.

    Gennady is a far better fighter than Tyson was at that point in his career, and Eubank jr is no Holyfield.Tyson was on the downside of his career as well. You say styles make fights yet you picked an irrelevant one to compare.
     
  2. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    CEJ more than likely has better stamina than GGG. He may even have a better chin. But his chin will need to be much better because CEJs chin will be tested a lot more than GGGs. The stamina part probably won't play a factor either because I doubt CEJ has enough experience to force Golovkin to fight his fight. The best CEJ could do is try and make the fight sloppy, throw a lot of punches, and hope the judges are dumb enough to think he outboxed GGG. Personally, I doubt he figures out GGGs check jabs and jab counters and gets broken down by round 8 and TKO'd late.
     
  3. iii

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    As someone said Eubanks Snr had power to change a fight , Jnr does not. Also Eubanks Snr had an Iron chin & heart of a lion..Jnr, well will find out if he ever fights GGG. He will need his Dad's genetic's then!

    People keep saying Jnr has stamina...like his Dad , he takes a rest in each & every round. He has amazing flurries & then a little walk , back & forth to recover...GGG will not be letting Jnr have his rests...game over. Snr, I was a fan of but in all reality he was an "OK" fighter...he or Benn, did not want to know Nunn & especially Toney

    Nunn would have tottaly confused Snr & Benn would be looking at where he went. Toney, well Toney at that time was IMO his own GGG, I dont mean the power of GGG but Toney could fight & had heart, benn would be knocked out properly & Snr well downed a few times & possible stoppage but not Ko'd.

    Daft thought I know but IMO a modern day Toney would really test GGG might even beat him , as I said a daft thought ...But Toney was a great S/MW.
     
  4. james5000

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    When you throw a 20-30 punch combo don't you think its wise to have a breather?

    I don't think GGG would be as easy to tee off on as Blackwell etc so Jr Will have to throw shorter combos 2-3 , 4-5, this will conserve his energy so he won't have to rest. GGG is not a high output fighter any way. If he tries to make Jr work it might backfire and he might tire.
     
  5. TJ Max

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    I don't know. I thought that would be the case, but look how he handled Lemieux initially. He began by using his jab and going backwards.
     
  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    That's not how Holyfield beat Tyson. Holyfield tied Tyson up smothering his attacks on the inside and used his superior reach to outbox him on the outside. It's the same tactic that Tunney used to beat Dempsey, Young used to beat Foreman, Brook used against Porter, Mayweather used against Maidana, Klitschko used against Povetkin, and Gaydarbekov used to beat Golovkin in the amateurs.
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  7. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Eubank Jr has NO POWER. He couldn't stand there and trade with GGG and come out on top.
     
  8. Beatle

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    Actually, the tactic Gaydarbekov used to beat GGG is to throw first and be aggressive, which is what Eubank Sr said is the way to beat GGG. You have to beat him up, not wait for him to beat you up.

    That's why I think guys like Chavez Jr and Eubank Jr would beat GGG. Anyone who thinks that defensive guys like Lara and Ward would beat GGG are delusional: we've already seen what GGG does to defensive fighters (Geale, Proksa, Monroe): those guys boxed well and were easily annihilated.
     
  9. Beatle

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    After seeing a guy put into a coma by Eubank Jr, you say he has "no power". Surely you have been smoking marijuana.
     
  10. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's right. Sustained damage throughout 12 rounds causes more neurological damage than getting blasted out in a few rounds.
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    He's a pompous idiot, he'd be KO'd and early, he'd be playing right into GGG's hands, you stand in trade in close with GGG you get brutally KO'd although Eubank would probably last until the 8th or 9th because the moment he feels GGG's power his gameplan would fly out the window and he'd get on his bicycle.
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Mexican and Thai fighters are kill frequently for the same reasons often by light punchers, sustained beatings do more damage than one punch KO's, if Malignaggi stopped trying to box and punched you in the head like a Wildman for 10 rounds he could cause damage as well.
     
  13. Beatle

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    You don't think Holyfield stood his ground and stood up to the bully?

    Well, at least everyone can use their eyes and actually watch the fight:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu0Htt0OenA

    GGG is slower than even that 30-year-old version of Tyson, and Eubank is actually on the level of Holyfield.

    It's easy to make fun of Eubank now, but people who know boxing can see talent before the fighter gets the big wins, and can see a lack of talent in an undefeated prospect before he gets his first loss.

    I was calling Andre Ward an ATG before the Super Six even started, and I was calling Stiverne a bum before the Wilder fight. After the Eubank-Golovkin fight, you'll be having to make excuses as to why you wrote Eubank off before the fight - I'll just keep calling him an excellent fighter.
     
  14. Beatle

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    Then explain CEJ's 74% KO ratio against tough guys like Dmitry Chudinov, Spike O'Sullivan, and Nick Blackwell. He knocks out bums early, and the tough guys get worn out through accumulation and stopped late. That's what might happen to GGG, but I think a UD for Eubank is more likely.
     
  15. Beatle

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    OK, so the problem here is semantics. You can say that Jack Dempsey outboxed Jess Willard, while I insist he outbrawled him. It doesn't matter. Holyfield refused to fight on the backfoot and he gave Tyson the same hell that Tyson was used to giving his opponents (the best of whom all fought him in a defensive-minded way).

    Tunney fought Dempsey on the backfoot - Holyfield fought Tyson by standing toe to toe. How can you even compare the two? Are you blind?