Chris Eubank Sr - Todays fighters can't compare

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  1. atberry

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    Chris Eubank Snr: Fighters today can't compete with my record!

    By Samuel Lee

    Former WBO middle and super-middle champion Chris Eubank believes todays fighters have it too easy, and that his resume of opponents has yet to be beaten.

    "Objectively, I fought seven fights against multiple-time world champions. I also fought Michael Watson twice, who in our second fight was tenfold-improved and won seven rounds straight going into the 11th.

    "I also fought Lindell Holmes - who knocked out Michael Spinks in one round in the amateurs and was beating Herol Graham on points in Sheffield before eye damage - a naturally gifted 35 year old former champion of the world who was refused by the other three world champions. I knew if anyone could box and punch, it was this guy!"

    He also pays homage to Graciano 'Rocky' Rocchigiani, the underappreciated European toughguy superstar of the 80s and 90s, whos '0' was taken by Eubank.

    "And Graciano Rocchigiani, who subjectively looked to have bettered Maske, Michalczewski and Nunn and was already the 35-0 former champion of the world in his hostile German backyard," he said of the 6ft2 southpaw.

    Chris questions the activity level of todays champions.

    "When I was champion, we defended the title every two months or less. Today, they're allowed to take half a year off because the subscription television channels need that long to build them up and advertise them.

    "The reason todays champions aren't marketable is because they don't entertain. They don't take that step back when they have an opponent on the hook to draw a response from the crowd, both ringside and arm-chaired. It takes cajones and confidence," he reckons.

    Opportunity was also taken to ask Chris who his favorite boxers were when coming up as a young fighter.

    "When coming up as a young fighter, who were my favorite boxers? My favorite boxers in terms of who had certain attributes that I greatly admired, then they were; Thomas Hearns, for his creatively effective jabbing; Pernell Whitaker, for his poetic defensive maneuvering, and Mike Tyson, for the power of his countering combinations in the middle of range."

    And also, what were his weak points as a young boxer that he needed to fix to fight at world title level?

    "My best asset until I met my martial arts tutor Walter Johnson in 1986 - the tall slender figure at many of my future world title fights - was offensive footwork. By that I mean closing distances between myself and the opposing fighter with inching fast steps that never crossed and on my feet balls.

    "Then I changed my style entirely where I would distribute 97.5% of my bodyweight to my rear leg at all times that I was inches out of distance, to purify myself as an escape artist, and this style saw me through my highly successful career."

    And his weakest asset?

    "I am structured with a short torso, which means I have high hips. So a low centre of gravity I do not have. So learning the correct punching technique to a tee on each one of the dozens of shots, which all start from the toe, could be very, very frustrating at times.

    "Simply put, it took me many, many years of daily exhaustion to master all the punches and moves. But master them, I most certainly did!"

    I can't argue with that.
     
  2. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Some good points overall. Of course, in his time, the previous era of boxers said the same thing about his era.

    I guess it's always going to happen.
     
  3. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Carl Froch does compare with Eubanks & Collins . All 3 and maybe Calzaghe as well were better than Benn who lost by stoppage almost every time he faced a name opponent , and was even given fits by Eubanks in their rematch and by old man Malinga . And how many times did i already mention that McClellan was just going 2 stop him but d ref robbed it from him ?
    They (Froch , Collins , Eubanks and maybe Calzaghe) were also better than Watson whom was about Benn's level , maybe slightly better than him .
    Eubanks would have probably "lost" by d same way 2 d men who "beat" Collins . Both of them rank very closely and r interchangeable .
     
  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    BS. Froch has fought the best of his division something Eubank never did. Nunn, McCallum, Kalambay and Toney were all better than anyone he fought at MW IMO. As were of course RJJ at SMW.

    Where as Froch has met everyone of note in his division. He's the example to follow rather than Eubank.
     
  5. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But then Collins gave Kalambay , McCallum , Reggie Johnson tough fights and Eubanks might have n argument 2 beating him at least 1ce . I do agree Froch's opposition was better than Eubanks' but was it better than Collins' ? and if Collins compares 2 him then so does Eubanks , and i don't mean Eubanks was better than Collins nor d opposite . Just that i think that they rank close . There may b merit in ranking Froch higher than both of them but does he deserve much higher ?
     
  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I concur. Eubank was very careful in who he fought overall.
     
  7. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think Eubank can take credit for that Collins faced the guys he wouldn't face.

    And even though Collins was extremly game against McCallum the fight wasn't by any means close. The only thing that kept it from being an outright schooling was that Collins pressed on despite the heavy punishment he got. Haven't seen his fight against Kalambay, but got the impression that Kalambay also won comfortably, despite his age at the time.
     
  8. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was close , i watched it twice and Collins did not get heavy Punishment . 4 comparison and a measure , d younger (than Collins) Michael Watson got heavy punishment from McCallum , Julian Jackson got heavy punishment (not very) from McCallum , but not Collins who initially retreated and hence avoided most of d punishment and then pressed after weathering d not so heavy onslaught .
     
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  10. thistle1

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    Eubank's thinks he the Best, and he does'nt like that others are edging him now or then!

    He knows he can "claim" dominance with respect to having fought and beat his great British foes, even though he wasn't the best among them. So he doesn't worry so much about the critics.

    But the Best he was NOT!!!

    He never talks about the past greats, NEVER!
    and though I do understand that he's right about fighters NOT fighting or defending as often, he wins ZERO credibilty because he can't bring himself to honour others!

    Every Boxing Historian & Serious Boxing Fan recognizes Better Era's one over another, but Eubank KNOWS that the average person doesn't know this, nor even care abouit it, so he goes on for himself, and because of this "only recent & present memory," he wins some supporters!

    IF the man would acknowledge Past Greats, from the BEST Era's and then admit that his own was a Very Good third place Era for middleweights, I believe he would command more credibility.

    He doesn't, He NEVER will, he's still easy to dislike...

    Very good fighter, but thats the Best he gets!
     
  11. Flea Man

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    I always love hearing Chris talk about the game even if I don't always agree with him, for all his swagger he's also very self deprecating.
     
  12. ApatheticLeader

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    Eubank is a joke, and not a funny one.
     
  13. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Eubank was avoided like the plague. Froch has had his run of opponents based on pure luck with the Super Six forcing it - and got schooled most of the time, may I add.

    Bob Arum admitted he wasn't going to let any of his fighters anywhere near Eubank when Eubank was calling for Nunn and Toney.
     
  14. atberry

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    PS
    Steve Collins was a 16-fight novice against McCallum and didn't have long to prep.
    I thought he edged Reggie Johnson.