Chris Eubank V Gerald McCllenan.........1995

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  1. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    vote now !!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. BadJuju83

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    There is some people here that dont know a ****in thing about Eubank in 95, or just voing for partisanship.

    Probably the same folk that give ****ed up votes for other subjects. Gerald takes this in 95 forgeting everything else.
     
  3. Pimp C

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  4. Well, it's not really dissimilar from the type(s) of foolishness that allow folks to choose JC over prime Benn, Eubank, McClellan, Collins, Jones, Hopkins, Toney, McCallum, Nunn, etc., etc., etc. ESB = partisanship gone berserk
     
  5. BadJuju83

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    Well, got to be honest, from them names, at 168 the only ones that warrent discussion are Roy,Hop and Toney and i'd put the house on JC having Toney.

    Hop, toss a coin, could go at it and they could be 5 out of ten either way, their styles clash, whatever age they are.

    Roy for me takes Calzaghe every time, the man was a freak, no KO or **** that folk love spouting but handily beats him on points.
     
  6. dangerousity

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    Eubank too slick and his chin would have neutralized GM power, Eubank UD.
     
  7. BadJuju83

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    In 95?,

    A lot of asuming G-mans KO percentage came from shots to the dome here.

    80% came from Body shots, which Eubank was open too. And he openly hated.

    Either a lot of hate for Gerald or a lot of misconceptions taking place here.

    In 95, G-man stops him, or takes a UD no doubt.


    Best version of Eubank at middle against the best version of G-Man, i'd take Eubank, G-Man struggled with slick Boxers in the pro's, but in 95 this isnt even a contest. Folk need a shake.
     
  8. Fighting Weight

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    Agree with you on the Roy and Hopkins thing but can't see Calzaghe beating Toney, I think it's an even worse match up for him than Jones is.
     
  9. Fighting Weight

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    Folk don't need a shake, Eubank wasn't a man that got stopped until he was over the hill and fighting at 190. As hard hitting as McLellan was, he'd tire in the later rounds and that's when Eubank would take him out. You can make a case for Eubank not taking advantage, like he did with Collins which cost him the fight but suggesting Eubank would have been stopped is unrealistic if you ask me, the man was iron.

    Also "isn't even a contest"? Come on, I respect you've got your opinion but that's stretching things.
     
  10. BadJuju83

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    Toney's defensive skills(shell) and his counterpunching keep it competitive, but his shocking feet movement and movement alltoghether leads to Calzaghe scoring a UD no doubt.

    I like Toney but He's one , if I had to put my house on it,Calzaghe getting the nod evey time.
     
  11. DINAMITA

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    I think McClellan would have stopped Eubank.

    Eubank in 1995 was nothing like the same guy who beat Benn and Watson years earlier. The McClellan of the Benn fight definitely beats the Eubank of the Collins fight IMO.

    McClellan at 168 hit harder than Benn, and Benn hurt Eubank badly. Hell, Collins put Eubank down in '95 and GMan hit far far harder than Collins.

    By 1995, Benn was better fighter than Eubank, and because Benn's heart, power, brawling ability and upper body/head movement allowed him to overcome McClellan does not automatically mean Eubank would have as well. I just don't think the '95 Eubank had the same killer instinct anymore, the same lust for battle, the same never-say-die spirit that Benn had on that night.

    I think Benn-McClellan was one of those special nights where one guy's heart allows him to achieve an amazing win that just didn't look possible at points. Kind of like Lloyd Honeyghan vs Donald Curry. After beating Curry, Honeyghan lost to Jorge Vaca. Does this mean that Vaca could definitely have replicated Lloyd's win over the p4p#1? No. On certain nights, certain fighters can just achieve special things.
     
  12. Fighting Weight

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    I disagree totally but we'll leave it there.
     
  13. Fighting Weight

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    Did you watch the fight where Honeyghan 'lost' to Vaca, by any chance?

    Yes Benns heart won him through against McLellan and it was an amazing win. You seem to be suggesting that Eubank didn't have the fighting heart that Benn did though, and that bothers me. Eubank was far tougher than Benn and had more heart too, he proved it in the ring. McLellan could only dream of stopping a guy like Eubank - he couldn't even stop Benn after having him in all kinds of trouble, Eubank had twice the chin Benn did, and just as much fighting spirit. This fight would end very badly for McLellan once he started to tire, same thing as what happened with Benn.
     
  14. BadJuju83

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    I wouldnt put a penny on Gerald stopping Eubank by a right hand on his jaw. Not at all.

    But he was well open for Body shots in his prime, let alone in 1995, and whatever people think about McClelllan, he was murderous when it came to body shots, like i said most of his stopages came from them. In 95 Eubank wouldnt stand a chance. I stand by that.

    For lots of reasons Eubank would not have lasted half as long as Benn that night.

    If we were talking the best version of Eubank at middle against the best version of McClellan i would put my house on Chris. But in 95, not a chance, sorry.
     
  15. BadJuju83

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    Fair do's bud.
     
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