Chris John vs Juan Manuel Marquez-FULL FIGHT AND POST YOUR SCORECARD!

nice analysis, thats what happens when you step into some corrupt mofo country unfortunatley. he would win a rematch hands down

 

Haven't seen it but will later

BUT most on here had Chris John winning as did most ringsiders, calling it a robbery is bull****

 

3,4,6,7,11 for john...round 11 was the decider..i give it to john

i had it a draw 113-113

 

it's close but i feel john did more damage that round..JMM's moment there was when he landed several body shots...it's closest round imo

 

Nah, It was a close fight..could gone either way, but definitely not robbery...And besides, Marquez has no lose in his record, it was all robbery..wasn't it?

 

i really hard time scoring this one...i've always have a policy that close rounds go to the favored boxer...but in this case, john has the hometown advantage. can't really blame the judges for scoring it to john...

when i score the fight, i try to be in the shoes of the judges.

i know ring generalship is considered, but i put more weight on punches landed...kind of amateur judging...1 point for power punches and .33 or .5 depending on how clear the punches are...

if the difference is 2 points or less...i give the round to the favored boxer or a hometown guy...It's just fair as an underdog of fighter on the road, you must win convingcingly to get the round..that's the general notion...but in terms of ring generalship, JMM takes 10 or 11 rounds..

 

7-4-1 Marquez. Minus the 2 point deductions, I have Marquez by one round. John boxed well in spurts but couldn't quite keep JMM off.

Good performance by John, and it has established what hopefully will be a top level career. But that was substandard Marquez; JMM had probably never seen him fight before, didn't have great preparation etc.

 

I had it 116-113 to Marquez.

Marquez John
10 9
10 9
9 10
9 10
10 9
10 9
10 10
10 9
10 9
9 9
9 10
10 9

Round 7 - I couldn't really split them so 10-10, although John could've shaded it.
Round 10 - Marquez deducted for low blow. It was around the bottom of the belt area so just about legit. After the deduction he hit another low so a deserved point off all-in-all, but I thought he clearly won it so 9-9.
Round 11 - Marquez deducted again, he was winning the round but John came back quite strong so I think it would've been a 10-10, but the point off made it 10-9 John.

I thought Marquez deserved the win and dominated some and clearly won most of the rounds and it seems like the only reason John got the nod was because of the hometown bias in the point-deduction rounds which were probably given as 10-8s to John and round 7 was probably given to John also, so I could see a way in which this result could come about, in a country that is less regulated and unused to big fights and with the national boxing hero who made it a competitve fight.

It was a close fight and John never looked out of his depth but I think Marquez worked his way to deserve a good win throughout the rounds, but in the debatable rounds where he kept working his advantage, there was a way to take the round off him and the fight as the home judges would be looking for any small opportunity to give it to John so I can see how the result came about. Not a massive robbery but Marquez should have the W or at least a D.