One Loss in I believe 53 fights. Featherweight champ for 9 yrs. What are your thoughts and or opinions. Never hear about him on here
Arguably had a better argument for having legitimately defeated a prime Dinamita than Pac did in either Pacquiao vs. Márquez I or II.
Chris John trained in Perth from 2005 to the end of his career under Craig Christian . http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-12/an-indonesian-boxer-close-to-all-time-win-record/4625574 This content is protected
His talent in the ring vastly outweighed his eye for talent, as promoter. Dragon Fire put all their eggs in one basket (Rasmanudin) and the basket immediately caught fire, just spontaneously combusted and voila, omelet.
Very challenging question. I'd make him favorite or even-money with every active featherweight today (although it must be said the division is currently in a bit of a lull compared to its halcyon days in past eras). He missed a lot of elite contemporaries but to make it up for it, he did also dominate the second-string of the division for a decade. His one ATG scalp is JMM, and that's a hotly debated outcome. (I personally say no robbery, despite being a huge Dinamita fanboy). I think you can't freeze him out from a top 15, that's just absurd. He isn't sniffing at 5, though. Maybe anywhere between eighth and dozenth? It requires having to square him with turn-of-the-19th-century guys there's no footage of, which I always consider rocky footing.
I am reminded of Chris John every day when I go to work...as there is an attorney with that same name right next to where I live. I was intrigued by the boxer Chris John since I read of him outpointing JMM years ago....as Intentional says, it was somewhat controversial a win...but there's two sides to every story I guess. Since he was the King of the second stringers and was a big fish in a small pond, it's kind of hard to really draw a bead on him, except to say that he did an admirable job in staying undefeated and racking up those defenses until his coach turned into a pumpkin.
He was a good, solid fighter. A decent mover, fundamentally sound most of the time, presented good angles etc. He was gutsy too and not afraid to mix it up if the fight was forced on him, nor was he a hometown champ; he took his strap on the road quite a bit as I remember, albeit against shocking opposition mostly, other than JMM. Offensively limited though and seriously lacking the sort of tools there that would have complimented his better attributes and made him a genuinely very good/excellent fighter. I thought the Marquez fight was fairly close tbh, he really made Marquez look shite. I scored it for Marquez, but he gets too much of a free pass for it being taken as a robbery. All night long John was making him miss, overreach and follow him around the ring; he just didn't have the elite counterpunching skill of Marquez himself to dole out appropriate punishment. Historically he's a sort of a solid B-level top ten contender type in a decent one-belt era I think. A sound example of making the most of your talents (plus a bit of careful management).
I ranked him at #35 all time at featherweight. That's above guys like Winstone and Esparragoza (both of whom i'd pick to beat him I think?). He was never the legitimate champ, only a strapholder and it's important to understand why. He never beat the best feather in the world excepting himself, ever. This limits the meaning of his title reign, obviously. Still, 48-0-3 is pretty awesome regardless. Legitimate win over Marquez and Rocky Juarez and Hiro Enoki are very good wins, both top five guys. John-Enoki is an awesome, weird fight btw, check it out if you haven't. This content is protected