Christopher Colbert vs. Tögstsogt Nyambayar & Michel Rivera Medina vs. Jon Fernández Dominguez RBR.

Typical goon, just make it personal and resort to namecalling like a teenage girl when you have nothing factual or logical to add.

 

Ye cos you're the font of objectivity aren't ya.. you've spent years ripping apart fighters like GGG yet you jizz all over fighters that haven't put themselves out there half as much as he did.. you slurp on divas who constantly look to have it all their own way in boxing .. & mate, I'm in your head this week aren't I?Jesus.. you've quoted me how many times?! LOL .. BTW, Usyk, weighed 207/8lbs for Hunter & Mchunu. That's 7lbs over the CW limit. Remind me what Colbert weighs again? Beterbiev isn't as big as ppl think either, I'd be surprised if he has ever weighed much more than 190 fight night. Regardless, the difference is these men & divisions are naturally bigger anyway so those type of weight margins (15-20lbs) aren't as bad & won't have the same impact as it will in the smaller weight match ups. Do you understand? 20lbs is 3/4 divisions at the smaller weights.. that matters.. Benavidez is a huge SMW yes, but he's not a fighter I have been closely following, i don't have to cite examples you would like me to cite, I'll use my own, thanks tho. Weight grifting happens in boxing.. yes it's not exclusive to one any one nation or fighter but I don't think it an unreasonable talking point. I've said my piece now. Like it or not, I don't care .. if it's made you sensitive. Blame Crawford, not me.

 

Stirred up another hornets nest here haven't I

 

Don't pick and chose who you want to come after you're selective about who you target not only in this but everything in general and we all know what that is about.

Ggg was worthy of criticism hyped to the heavens by overzealous fans like yourself without beating a fighter of note and when he finally had a chance to prove it against a guy in canelo who you and others predicted he would make leave the ring on a stretcher he didn't deliver. Those are facts dont get mad at me that he wasn't as great as people like you wanted him to be. The only guy I hyped like that was pbf and he was very worthy of praise and dominated an entire era and lived up to the hype. I dont hype tank and say hes an atg nor the charlos I say they will beat specific fighters though. People like you get mad when you anoint fighters as the second coming and they don't deliver and people like me call you out and criticize them. Then you make every excuse in the book about why they didn't deliver. It's pathetic. Learn to take a loss like a man and give other fighters their due when they prove you wrong. You'll have more credibility by doing so.

 

It's difficult, but fans need to be more objective. It's predictable that if a fighter isn't abosolutely prefect in a fight, so called fans, will critisize him and call him over hyped. Oh, he knocked him out in the 9th, but X fighter stopped him in the 4th. Hype job! LOL

 

Again, you just don't get it. How about try and understand what was written? Teenage girl? You're the only here drooling and worshipping these men (who are fooling you) you weirdo lmao

Keep living in fairytale land ya helmet

 

That's a way of spinning it.. GGG was actively trying to get big fights at 160 its just many of the other guys were obviously ducking him. Hence why Pirog GGG was scheduled. I think you mean the likes of Canelo and Jacobs only chose to fight him when he was 34/35 and on the decline.. And even at 34-36, he beat these young prime hypejobs

 

No, that was youth. You're misunderstanding what I'm
getting at.. they outgrew those weights naturally. They weren't cutting huge amounts.. I suspect none of them hydrated 20lb+ come those particular title fight nights. & Was prime Hearns in between fights weighing upwards of 40lbs more than his actual weigh in weight like Terence Crawford? I doubt it. Maybe as he got old & fatter like Duran but Crawford even prime & fighting at 140 is almost breaching 180.. he didn't look fat either. Weight grifting is clearly a thing today.. a lot of younger smaller weight fighters have been cutting silly (imo) amounts of weight to build themselves as multi weighters but it's actually clever smoke & mirrors weight bullying.. Like I said, it's not illegal but it's not done by accident either. Same day weigh ins would even the playing field. Just my opinion. BTW, You personally have also made mention of fighters weight & its connotations in the past too so you can't dismiss others for bringing it up now. Im not saying it's exclusive just to today's fighters or any one individual.. but I maintain that weight grifting DOES happen in boxing, it is a legitimate talking point & it is a way of stacking the deck somewhat. Maybe I'm just an idealist, so be it.

 

Fanboying for whom you moron? I’m talking about every single fighter who are being attacked for being a weight bully without a shred of evidence of them doing anything illegal, simpleton. I remember some loon here telling everyone that GGG is a natural LHW who’s weight bullying his opponents just because “he looks big to him”. Same ******ation, different username. You’re all the same simple-minded losers who’re clutching at straws to hate on fighters for the sake of hating.

And please, do explain how I’m being fooled. Do these fighters not weigh in at the same time, for the same agreed weight? Or are some of these fighters allowed to weigh in a say before the fight while the others are forced to make weight in the morning of the fight? (Not that I’d be shocked if you believed that with this kind of extreme low level of intelligence.)

 

There's no spin. Ggg could have dared to be great and fought ward at 168 if he claimed people were ducking him but no he said you ward 164 after saying anyone from 168-154 can get it. Ggg didn't want anything to do with ward and neither did his fans who wanted ward to move up and leave ggg alone and fight kovalev at 175 but unlike ggg ward ain't shook and took the challenge. Ggg also took alot if step aside money. He wasn't shot when he fought canelo I don't want to hear it. I'm sure you under a previous alt picked ggg to knock canelo out like many others here. Pbf gave canelo that work even older than ggg was when he fought canelo. Ggg fans said ggg was the greatest mw ever and beats hopkins monzon Hagler and others at mw so surely he could've done the same like pbf did if that was the case right? Wrong! Feasting on no hopers for a career like wade don't prepare you to beat elite level guys like canelo. That's what I tried telling his fans for years and why I bashed him when his fans said he was the best mw ever despite not beating anyone. At the end of the day people like me were proven right and people like you were proven to be wrong and are full of excuses.

 

You're a fangirl to each of those hypejob weight bullies you defend. Not difficult to understand, is it? And if it's not evident you're being fooled read my initial post if you can wrap your thick head around it. Jesus f christ you absolute simpleton

You should be banned for calling others simple minded.. The absolute state of your "arguments" if you can call them that. Again go back to what I initially wrote you halfwit because you're not addressing it.

My argument is not about weight bullying being illegal or against the rules. Something can be still be unfair if it happens under but exploits the rules for significant gain ..what's so hard to understand : a fighter who has a significant weight advantage consistently beats on smaller guys..how is this noy unfair? I don't think you have the experience or intellect to understand that size /weight matters significantly. These weight bullies clearly don't have the self belief to fight guys their own size in the ring. I don't think you'll ever wrap your head around that though

 

It's much easier to cut weight or lose it naturally when young, but plenty of young fighters balloon between weigh-in and fight night. By the end of his reign at 130, Mayweather was killing himself to make weight. It's part of a fighter's training and career management. The guys who aren't draining as much understand they are potentially suffering a size disadvantage while perhaps being stronger and more comfortable on fight night. It's all part of the competition and it's already a level playing field. The guys who aren't draining as hard as they could are bypassing the opportunity to fight in a lower weight class.

We've seen great fighters make this choice, such as Roy Jones. He didn't want to drain at all so he went to 175 where he had no issues at all. His decision.

To be clear, I have no issues with rehydration clauses at all. I think it would be better for the sport not to have guys blowing up in weight. Where you and I disagree is that you want to blame the fighters for maximizing their physical advantages, where to me the issue is the rules that are in place. What you call "bullying" I call "optimizing," and if we agree that huge weight cuts are dangerous for both the cutter and his opponent, then put in a new rule.

 

colbert outboxes valdez rather easily. If he wants to point fight the only chance valdez has is if he gets a canelo decision.

 

I adressed your initial post even before you responded to me you moron, when I said “each and every single fighter fight at the lowest weight they can make healthily, barring a few who fight at higher weights for better opportunities such as Pacquaio, Mikey Garcia or Usyk.” You of course couldn’t comprehend with that given your IQ level which can easily be rivaled by the room temprature.

You wanna know why this Bull**** about hating on fighters for being a weight bully is just that, bull****? (Barring a few cases like Chavez Jr or Luis Nery, who actually cheated to fight smaller opponents) Because of simple minded losers like you who use it to hate on fighters without a shred of evidence of them holding any unfair advantage over their opoonents. Just like the goon who told everyone that GGG was a weight bully just for the sake of shitting on him, or the one who made the same accusation about Usyk just because he was fighting SHWs in WSB(not in this thread) or you with Crawford at WW, even though his last opponent was a guy who was ripped weighing in 176 and his first fight at the weight was against a guy who went on to fight at MW. Different posters, different agendas, same idiocy.

 

Lmao you call me the moron and then this is your point. Basic level of understanding
You still don't get it that there are ways of exploiting the rules. Your brief comment does not at all tell me why its fair to weigh 10-20lbs heavier than your opponent on fight night. The rules are inherently unfair. And yet you want boxers to be praised or respected for beating up small guys (which is what you are heavily suggesting)

You think these fighters are going to let the public know how much they balloon up fight night lol naive. They don't want the public knowing how much of a ***** they are never fighting someone who weighs the same fight night. Walk around weight and actual comparison in the ring fight night is a fair way of estimating whether someone is a weight bully (and consistency in this itself) .

Yeah, you might have heard that, but I've never said that so its irrelevant..I've always held GGG is a natural middleweight and that guys at 168 would be too big for him.

Again, I've never said that so irrelevant... You:re picking some of the shittest examples that I've never even heard before.

I've always said Crawfords natural weight would be 147-154.. Considering Kell Brook is a big welter/154lber your whole "argument " is irrelevant.