Christopher Livingstone Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams & Claressa Shields vs. Ema Kozin RBR.

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  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    A majority on here also support Trump.Says a lot about them not me! I am not here to deny the truth of what I see.
     
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  2. dragon666

    dragon666 Active Member Full Member

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    I'm not Eubank Jr's biggest fan but he's now grown into a super middleweight and looked the physically stronger man. He just needs to learn to pace himself better and stop using needless amounts of energy moving around. A good trainer can teach him not to and improve his defense. He needs to work on defense and to refine his jab.

    If he learns not to waste energy and still uses his movement to his advantage along with adopting a proper jab he will be tough to beat.

    Although, I think the reality of the fight last night was Liam Williams is actually a junior middleweight and Eubank Jr is the naturally bigger man. Liam Williams should go down to 154 if he can still make that weight.

    I don't think Jermall Charlo and those other guys are particularly great. I could still see Eubank beating him based on his experience even though he may not have won his biggest fight against Groves.

    Saunders (if he ever comes back) and has retained his speed and timing would beat Eubank Jr. Some of the rest i'm not sure about.

    I was really on the Williams hype train when i thought he was hard done by against Liam Smith in the first fight. I just think he lacks the ring iq and the overall durability to win a belt.
     
  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    I personally believe CEJ will bang up Billy Jane Saunders if they fight again and it will be fun too.
     
  4. dragon666

    dragon666 Active Member Full Member

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    Who knows because Saunders can blow hot and cold. I think it's possible for sure.
     
  5. navigator

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    If he's trying to prance around and potshot Bill, it'll be a long night for him. The limited success he enjoyed in their first fight came from bringing the heat. If he reverts to that kind of an approach, maybe he can break down a faded, jaded Saunders.
     
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  6. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Also when it comes to objectivity I remember you claiming Billy Jane Saunders was ahead on your scorecards against Canelo at the time of the stoppage when even Stevie Wonder knew Canelo was clearly winning before he made the ***** Billy Jane quit.
     
  7. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    What we can say is CEJ can fight different styles.
     
  8. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    At a certain level. Saunders is much cuter than Williams (and even Liam adjusted enough to gain a footing in the fight), too cute to pull those Diet Roy moves on.
     
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  9. African Cobra

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    We also know CEJ is stronger, fitter and hits harder and we know Billy Jane can quit.
     
  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Well... he was, and most people had him up as well. Also, why are you denigrating "Billy Jane" I mean... he did beat your crush CEJ with relative ease. You do realize by throwing off on him, you're also throwing off on Eubank Jr by default right? And if they fought again tomorrow, nothing would change. So don't waste your breath. As far as Trump goes... have you noticed that Biden is doing an exponentially worse job? Yeah, we were right about that as well.;)
     
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  11. UmarIFLUmar

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    I thought Liam won more rounds. 7-5 sounds about right, not that it matters.
     
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  12. navigator

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    Well, eh, if Junior bashes Billy up, it won't be any skin off my butt. I always admired Saunders' will o' the wisp boxing, but he's a turd. And, as it turned out, a shithouse.

    On the other hand, I've tried to warm to Chris Junior off and on for years. I'm just resigned to it never happening at this stage. His fights are frustrating to watch, he and his inner circle have approached his development too bloody-mindedly, and he's prone to lowbrow stunting (lacks his father's aesthetic singularity) and perplexingly blundersome utterances outside the ring.
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ...oh, Liam. :ohno

    Once again, I'm not mad - just disappointed.

    Not your fault you've been cast in the role of smiting a smug obnoxious twit who's your athletic superior twice in a row now. Oh well - at least this pair of consecutive losses were come by honestly (thanks in no small part to deteriorating chin and reflexes), unlike in 2017...
     
  14. African Cobra

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    There you go again! CEJ is not and has never been my crush if anything I have been critical of his technical ability but you won’t no that because you shoot from the hip without doing proper research because you think you are smart guy which is highly debatable. If they fight again I would bet money on Eubank winning which he almost did the previous time but pressed the gas late. You are the only one I know who genuinely had Billy Jane ahead of Canelo. If you really think he was ahead at the time Billy Jane quit put it to a poll so we can laugh at you. I doubt you will. As for Trump he is the worst President in US history in his own words “by a lot”. I would take Biden over Trump any day if the week and twice on Sundays. Mike Pence latest revelations on Trump that is Trump’s Vice President says it all. January the 6th says it all. Biden is better than Trump and he took his soul in the election despite what you MAGA fans not accepting your loss. Sounds familiar.
     
  15. African Cobra

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    I agree he is a turd and shithouse but those terms are to polite when referring to Billy Jane. He would think we were complimenting him. CEJ is his own man that’s for sure. I am not a fan of his but what I see is an athletic, tough, physically strong kid with athletic ability. Would love to see him and Lil G.