Chuvalo floored by Bonavena ?

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  1. Sonny's jab

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    I've read posts on another site (CBZ) where a couple of people have mentioned that Chuvalo seemed to get legitimately floored once by Bonavena.

    Apparently, Chuvalo goes down twice in this fight, both are ruled as slips, but at least some people who have seen the footage tend to agree that it looks like the referee got it wrong on one occasion.

    It's not actually always easy to see on film whether a fighter slips or is knocked down, but sometimes it is. I haven't seen this fight so I dont know, but if it is true then it goes to show that anyone can be knocked down (something I think is obvious, I actualluy think anyone can be knocked OUT too).
    I also dont think this would effect Chuvalo's reputation for chin even if I found it to be true on viewing.

    Anyone seen Chuvalo-Bonavena ?
     
    Sonny's jab, Jan 22, 2008
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  2. Woller

    Woller Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, the full fight excists. (I have it in my collection) I would have called one of the slips, a knock down, but these things happen in the heat of battle. Referees makes large or small mistakes.

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    Woller, Jan 22, 2008
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  3. Mendoza

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    So one was a slip, the other a knock down? Intesting information. Perhaps the Kurgan or John Thomas can comment on this.
     
    Mendoza, Jan 22, 2008
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  4. anut

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    i have it on video........
     
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  5. Mendoza

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    Do you agree with Woller? Is there a knockdown by Bonevenna?
     
    Mendoza, Jan 22, 2008
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  6. anut

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    I HAVENT SEEN IT IN AWHILE BUT AS I RECALL IT WAS KINDA LIKE HOLY/COOPER.........THE ROPES HELD HIM UP...BUT ID HAVE TO CHECK...I HAVENT VIEWED THE FIGHT IN ABOUT 8 YEARS
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    If Raging Bull calls it no KD it's really no KD IMO.
     
    JohnThomas1, Jan 25, 2008
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  8. Woddy

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    Why do you always post with your caps lock on?
     
    Woddy, Jan 25, 2008
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  9. klompton

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    I have that fight on film. I thought both times Chuvalo went down were knockdowns but one could have been a borderline slip. The other is definately a KD.
     
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  10. Mendoza

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    Thanks. Did Bonavena step on CHavlao's foot or not. One poster thinks he did.
     
    Mendoza, Jan 25, 2008
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  11. anut

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    cause i want 2 thats why
     
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  12. Mendoza

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    Klompton, and Woller are also respected posters and the say there was a legitimate knock down.
     
    Mendoza, Jan 27, 2008
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  13. JohnThomas1

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    I see that. I think we are going to have to see this one ourselves to truly comment going by the difference of respected opinion.
     
    JohnThomas1, Jan 27, 2008
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  14. Mendoza

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    Agreed.
     
    Mendoza, Jan 28, 2008
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  15. Woller

    Woller Active Member Full Member

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    I would have called one of the slips a knock down, but I see the action from a different angle than the referee. The referee can be mistaken or his view was blocked.
    I would call it a good fight, not a great fight. I have a old clipping from "Boxing Illustrated" they call it 6-4 Chuvalo.
    Woller
     
    Woller, Jan 28, 2008
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