Chuvalo vs. Shavers

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  1. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i'm guessing Ron Stander didn't run?
     
  2. bigjake

    bigjake Active Member Full Member

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    chuvalo didn't duck anyone,hed have beaten shavers.ole ernie would have gased out
     
  3. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, it's doubtful that he did. It would have made for a great fight.
     
  4. Curtis Lowe

    Curtis Lowe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just like the Ron Stander - Earnie Shavers fight did. Earnie uses George for a heavy bag for 3 rounds, tires, then gets KOed.

    P.S. Good to see you are still around and posting big Jake.
     
  5. bigjake

    bigjake Active Member Full Member

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    chuvalo looks pretty good at 71,saw him a few weeks ago
     
  6. bigjake

    bigjake Active Member Full Member

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    thank you,been on eastside boxing a long time now i still post now and then.i'm into other things to chasing girls, fast cars,and i'm in las vegas sometimes as well
     
  7. bigjake

    bigjake Active Member Full Member

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    the broken cheekbone was a fluke it happened during sparing for frazier his cheek after being repaired was better then ever
     
  8. Jersey Joe

    Jersey Joe Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Chuvalo = one of the greatest chins of all time. A non-stop power-punching barrage a la Foreman could stop him, but Shavers didn't really have the stamina for that. I really don't see Shavers knocking him out, which means a win for Chuvalo since Earnie faded bad in most of his fights, and had a glass jaw.

    Usually when a great chin goes up against a great puncher, the chin prevails. See Hagler, Ali, Chavez etc.
     
  9. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did you ever watch Forman/Chuvalo.
    I thought George was winning.
    Definately a premature stoppage.
    Also,
    George would outbox Shavers.
    Watch Chuvalo/Patterson.
    For what its worth, George never really took alot of punches on the chin. High on the head -- yes.
    His hands were always up high and he used his jab.
    His body attack was pretty dam good.
     
  10. bigjake

    bigjake Active Member Full Member

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    chuvalo talks about his body punching on the you-tube interview,yes he could bang and was strong as hell to boot
     
  11. dmille

    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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    The key word in that post is UNLESS. Reading IS fundamental.
     
  12. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Foreman was boxing Chuvalo and landing occasional bombs.
    In the third Chuvalo got hammered big time and turned away to
    avoid further punishment. Foreman may have seriously hurt
    him had they let that fight continue.

    I agree George was a tough SOB (in any era) who always gave the other guy hell and may well have waded in and stopped a gassy
    Shavers. But look at his resume for a moment. Outside of the strange
    Quarry bout, what is his biggest win? His career seems to be filled with
    a string of KO wins against mostly mediocre opponents punctuated throughout by a loss whenever he stepped up and fought any worthy contender.

    Difficult to say as I've always liked Chuvalo a lot as a fighter and as
    a person but the facts speak for themselves. Every time he stepped in against a top contender.....he lost.
     
  13. bigjake

    bigjake Active Member Full Member

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    that was quarry's fault he didn't remain standing not chuvalo's.what do you say about mike dejohn and doug jones my friend?fact was george was alwys dangerous,ali wanted no part of him after the dejohn fight REMEMBER???? back out of a signed contract
     
  14. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jake, I respect you dude, I'm 55, you're probably there or a tad older.
    I love George, he steps into any era he IS a force to be reckoned with. I often think about Dempsey, Louis, The Rock facing him and having their hands FULL of problems.
    But...I stand by my post.
    DeJohn? Yes, the big slugger from Miami, FL. His biggest win? NOBODY!
    Bob Cleroux in '62? UD? Two sluggers and Bob beat Chuvalo 2 out of 3!
    Burt Whitehurst? 1962? Come on! Doug Jones? Yes a viable contender
    but by 1964 this smallish heavy had no more gas in the tank. Five months prior to Chuvalo's KO of him he lost to pitter-patter Billy Daniels who was a last minute sub! Don't bring up the joke of Ernie Terrel's "championship" WBA reign. He had two 'defenses' one against Jones who he outweighed by about 100 pounds and....your boy Chuvalo! Who he clearly outpointed...
    You love Chuvalo, you love Ali...so do I but any viable top contender who was in good shape could beat Chuvalo any day of the week...
     
  15. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I suggest that you take a look a Shavers's record. He was knocked out in one by Jerry Quarry and knocked out in eight by Tex Cobb. The guy couldnt box and didnt have a chin. George would have had his number.
    George could out box him and had the chin and stamina over Shavers.