Clash of the HW journeymen - Who was the best?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by KTFO, Sep 1, 2007.


Page 1 of 2
  1. KTFO

    KTFO Guest

    Here’s a list of some journeymen who are well known. Who had the most exciting/effective style, who achieved most? Who should be added?

    Gerry Cooney – beat Ken Norton

    Jimmy Young – beat George Foreman

    George Chuvalo – had some highlights against Floyd Patterson and Muhammad Ali

    James Quick Tillis – beat Earnie Shavers

    Jerry Quarry – beat Floyd Patterson and Earnie Shavers

    Oscar Bonavena – scored KDs against Joe Frazier and Floyd Patterson

    Ron Lyle – beat Earnie Shavers

    Chuck Wepner – scored a KD against Ali

    James Buster Douglas – beat Mike Tyson

    Randall Tex Cobb – beat Earnie Shavers

    Leotis Martin – beat Sonny Liston

    Jimmy Ellis – beat Floyd Patterson

     
    KTFO, Sep 1, 2007
    KTFO, Sep 1, 2007
    #1
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

    71,579
    27,236
    Feb 15, 2006
    I would not call any of these guys journeymen.
     
    janitor, Sep 1, 2007
    janitor, Sep 1, 2007
    #2
  3. KTFO

    KTFO Guest

    Call them journeymen, contender, or journeymen with a titleshot, whatever you like.
     
    KTFO, Sep 1, 2007
    KTFO, Sep 1, 2007
    #3
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

    71,579
    27,236
    Feb 15, 2006
    Then I nominate Jimmy Young.

    A strong case can be made for him being a top 30 all time heavyweight.
     
    janitor, Sep 1, 2007
    janitor, Sep 1, 2007
    #4
  5. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,459
    20
    Feb 5, 2005

    Non of them were journeyman except Chuck Wepner.
     
    Asterion, Sep 1, 2007
    Asterion, Sep 1, 2007
    #5
  6. KTFO

    KTFO Guest



    Tough call. I bet there are people on this board who wouldn't rate e.g. Riddick Bowe within top 30.
     
    KTFO, Sep 1, 2007
    KTFO, Sep 1, 2007
    #6
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    112,986
    48,067
    Mar 21, 2007

    I'd be surprised if you can find anyone who doesn't have Bowe in their top 30.
     
    McGrain, Sep 1, 2007
    McGrain, Sep 1, 2007
    #7
  8. KTFO

    KTFO Guest



    :lol:

    What the hell makes e.g. James Tillis greater than Chuck Wepner? :huh
     
    KTFO, Sep 1, 2007
    KTFO, Sep 1, 2007
    #8
  9. KTFO

    KTFO Guest



    I bet there are. Open up a thread and you'll see.
     
    KTFO, Sep 1, 2007
    KTFO, Sep 1, 2007
    #9
  10. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    25,495
    2,150
    Oct 22, 2006
    Muhammad Ali, a damn fine Heavyweight Journeyman, seemingly fought everywhere;)
     
    TBooze, Sep 1, 2007
    TBooze, Sep 1, 2007
    #10
  11. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

    71,579
    27,236
    Feb 15, 2006
    If Chuck Wepner said-

    "I was no all time great but I did enough that I should not be caled a journeyman"

    Who could argue with him?
     
    janitor, Sep 1, 2007
    janitor, Sep 1, 2007
    #11
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    97,731
    29,080
    Jun 2, 2006
    Talent?
     
    mcvey, Sep 1, 2007
    mcvey, Sep 1, 2007
    #12
  13. KTFO

    KTFO Guest


    Joke of the day. :tired
     
    KTFO, Sep 1, 2007
    KTFO, Sep 1, 2007
    #13
  14. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,459
    20
    Feb 5, 2005

    ****, I didn't notice Tillis. My bad.

    He was also a journeyman. :yep
     
    Asterion, Sep 1, 2007
    Asterion, Sep 1, 2007
    #14
  15. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

    31,865
    3,115
    Apr 16, 2005
    Of those listed, I'd probably pick Chuvalo. Like others have said, the term journeyman is not really applicable to any of these guys except Tillis and Wepner. And even those guys were top-tier journeymen.
     
    Zakman, Sep 1, 2007
    Zakman, Sep 1, 2007
    #15
Page 1 of 2