CLASSIC FIGHT NIGHT THREAD:Wilder-Fury II

You must have watched another fight, GGG was trying hard for the knockout....

 

If anything, Brook looked liked he "threw" the fight in the 5th round more than Golovkin looked like he "carried" Golvokin.
I mean, I'm NOT saying Brook THREW the fight. But if you want to be suspicious of the fght, that's what it looks like more.
Dominic Ingle was basically saying in the corner to Brook, hang on for a bit and I'll get that towel in before he kills you. And whispering other stuff that we'll never know. Brook went out and did nothing until that towel came in.
Make of it what you will.

I think his eye was broken and he was getting hurt out there, and Ingle knew that from the 1st or 2nd round on.
But I do wonder whether these trainers/managers even have any faith in their fighters BEFORE the first bell rings, despite all their big talk.
I have no doubt that Eddie HEARN has a whole lot of plans for matching Golovkin against other fighters of his stable in the near future, and that Brook was a good way to bring Golovkin here, and it gives Brook a nice payday he's been waiting for for a while. It's all business after all.

 

Gonzalez win is more important, as it stands at the moment anyway. An entertaining fight. Gonzalez deserves to be regarded as a great fighter more than anyone around at the moment.
Then, it Brook goes on to be a "great middleweight", the Golovkin win will be seen as something more than it is right now.

 

Yeah, I think it's been pretty well established that he was an illusionist.
It's .... wha'd'ya-call-it .... the eyes/brain thing .... and he manipulated the genetically disadvantaged too. Political correctness prevents me from going into more details.

HBO did a good job with him, put it that way.

 

He has zero head movement.
Kovalev would stop him .

 

Triple G basically bullied him. He let his technique and defense, which many believe he lacks, go out the window as he marched through Brook. He obviously had no fear of his counters and if the fight continued Brook would of ended up badly hurt. It was only round 5 and he had a broken orbital bone and blood coming from his nose. His eye was closing there was no way he could last 7 more rounds.
Good fight.
And the chocolatito fight turned out to be excellent after first few rounds where I thought it was a dud because Cuadras was running so much. But once it settled wow. From round 6 on it was great.

 

That's why I said Probably.

 

How so?

 

I like your style!

 

Where is the proof of this?

 

It looked to me like GGG really had Brook where he wanted him after that sequence Reznick posted. GGG didn't appear to capitalize as he could have At that moment. Whilst Brook came back at him with everything he had, and it could be argued it was this that discouraged GGG from attempting to end things right there, It was not with enough steam to halt GGG in his tracks. Letting kell back into the fight, it appeared to me, an opportunity was lost.

 

I agree with this. Brook came back at GGG right when he needed to but the resistance GGG found allowed him to decide there was no need to hurry. An opportunity was lost.

Still a thrilling fight.

Agreed. He is used to "utter control" against men if his own division. I think this is like Joe Louis v Billy Conn in that the control Joe Louis was used to against larger guys was eclipsed by Billys smaller man reactions. Ultimately Louis was too good as well as being too big. I would put this "lesser sense of control" with GGG against Brook down to timing adjustment.

I think GGG conceded utter control in place of actual control. I felt he knew he was breaking him down. GGG knew it was a matter of time, but it was intresting to see his frustration with himself.

Brook rolled the dice and went from it. His attitude was sh!t or bust. All his big punches right away. You can't blame him. He went out on his shield.

 

I'm glad to see a classic thread on a significant modern fight.

Brook has pound for pound skills, and my theory is when the fighters have the same height and reach, the guy moving up in weight class can have some success. Brook scored some night counters.

By his own admission, this was a poor fight by GGG. I think he said a 4 on a scale of one to ten. His trainer pretty much agreed. But the facts are thus:

GGG did not respect Brook's power at all and neglected defense. GGG hardly used his jab, but when he did it was excellent. He hurt Brook badly with a body shot in round one, badly damaged his eye region ( broken eye socket ) , and would have finished him in a round or two had Brook's corner not stopped it.

For those who wanted to see GGG hit, and his response to it, this fight showed.

Brook won the second round on my card. Another round you could argue 10-10, but that's it.

My criticism of GGG is he looked a little slower in this fight. There were some rumors he wasn't 100%. Hopefully, this sub-par performance by GGG emboldens a cowardly Canelo to take the fight before GGG's 35 but I think he'll make GGG wait at least a year longer if the fight ever happens.

GGG will be much sharper in the next fight. Besides, guys with speed who can counter are pretty rare.