CLASSIC FIGHT NIGHT THREAD:Wilder-Fury II

Help me Jesus.

 

Inside it can be an advantage. But like I keep saying, and you won’t listen, the fighter has to be good enough to get into that position whereby at that distance he can have an advantage.

But play along with this nonsense about me thinking shorter reach is always an advantage. Which is an utter misrepresentation of what I have said. Ever.

 

Exactly. If the guy with the long arms is forced to use the wrong tactics he will not be using his long arms as an advantage. As Sam Langford used to say “whatever your opponent wants to do, don’t let him” and that works both ways. If a short guy wants to get inside don’t let him. If the long guy wants to stay away, don’t let him. cut the ring down, draw him in, let him fight the wrong fight.

 

Having long arms and knowing how to use them can be a massive massive advantage. I have never said it cannot be. Ever. Nowhere have I ever said long arms is always a disadvantage.

And yes. I would prefer my boxers to all have the longest arms and teach them how to use them.

 

Usyk will dethrone these SHW stiffs. His reach is also two inches longer than Parker since that is so topical.

 

Sonny having a 14 inch reach advantage over himself, what are you talking about?

 

I presume you meant Sonny Liston having longer arms than Marciano? Yes, Sonny had longer arms than Marciano.

Would Sonny use his longer arms as an advantage against Marciano?

I personally think Sonny might just fall into the trap of thinking he could blast Rocky to smithereens and get too close - so in my opinion - I don’t think Sonny would necessarily use his reach to the fullest advantage. No. And to be honest punching down to maintain distance against a crouching fighter is more difficult to do against than with an upright fighter. Sonny most likely fancies going straight in anyway. Those that think that will work for him fine. That’s up to them.

Sonny marched right into Floyd and beat him up in close, but Rocky was different to Floyd. Unless Sonny takes Rocky out with the very first punch he’s going to get hit back a lot. That’s my take. And I am entitled to it.

 

It’s called a reach advantage because the arms are longer. Like I say it is what you do with them that counts.. If a guy wears longer pants does he have a leg advantage or just longer legs? Same with necks or feet. @mcvey loves calf advantages. He has used that before in a debate about something before. Maybe he knows more about it?

But in 99% cases yes. Long arms is a great advantage.

 

I disagree, Povetkin TKO's Wilder.

While Price isn't great, Povetkin fought him at his best. Price put up a spirited effort in front of his home fans. The result was a KO of the year candidate for Povetkin.

But how can Povetkin fight a guy 6'6" to 6'8". I'll tell you how. Povektin has a good duck under and moves his feet forward while setting up a balanced punch to the body or the head. The body shot can double up to a hook to the head or left-right to the body. Povetkin also has the same move duck under lead move that features a hard right hook that lands on the face or head. Sometimes he throws a hard lead right hook, which is uncommon. No one in the division features a punch like this. It's the punch that stunned Price before the left took finished him off. Povetkin has some head movement, a good guard vs. hooks, and a high work rate. A long jab can get to him, but unlike say Parker, Povektin won't go off his best path to victory. Whoever fights him better be able to take body shots. If he lands that hook to the head, he's getting a knockdown or knock out.

Povetkin, even at age 38 still has a solid chin, decent speed, and most importantly the will to win and understanding and technique how to fight a taller or bigger man; I think Povetkin would TKO Wilder, and is 50/50 vs. Joshua.

And judging by neither man wanting anything to with Povektin in his mid 30's, I think we know why.