CLASSIC FIGHT NIGHT THREAD:Wilder-Fury II

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Fury won every round on 2 judges' scorecards and lost 1 round on the other judge's scorecard. He made it easy for the judges this time.
     
  2. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I don't think I've ever seen a 6'6 230lbs champion thrown around like a ragdoll. The sheer physicality of Fury's beating was breath taking. In some ways it reminded me of his fight with Steve USS Cunningham. Other than an early KD, Cunningham just got mauled until he had nothing left. Wilder, similarly, was going on pure heart from the 5th on. I hope he recovers; his beating was a lot worse than it looked to the untrained eye. The ear was particularly concerning.

    Incredible for Fury to overcome long bouts of depression. He's at his best when challenged. I hope climbing this summit doesn't make him fall into the abyss again.
     
  3. Pat M

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    I wouldn't favor anybody in history over Fury H2H. He's like a 6-9, 275 pound Chris Byrd or FMJ, boxing is second nature to the guy. Unless he gets out of shape he's going to be tough to beat. Fury dwarfed and physically bullied a 6-7, 230 pound man. It's funny that there are people on message boards saying that Fury can't punch...a 275 pound man who doesn't even know how to punch can hit hard. Fury has been training and punching his whole life under the tutelage of his father, uncles, etc. who are boxers. When he wants to hit hard, he can.

    Wilder impressed me with his heart, I think he was hurt early and didn't get to recover. It might have had something to do with the bleeding ear, it looked like his balance was off. There are few in history that I would favor H2H over Wilder. Wilder is still long, tall, quick, and athletic. Losing to Fury is no disgrace, I wouldn't favor anybody to beat Fury. If Fury fights Wilder again, it's still a dangerous fight for both of them. There are so many big strong athletes coming up with top class amateur experience that nobody is safe, but it won't be a Frazier, Marciano, or Patterson type who beats either of them.
     
  4. META5

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    I think the challenge of AJ will keep him focused. Relatively, Wilder could enact the rematch clause, although, for his sake, I hope Wilder leaves Fury alone. As you said, there's a lot of dominance in that fight. Good grappling techniques, partial headlockse, leaning his own weight across all of Wilder's neck, over and underhooks and control of the bicep, mauling and inside shots, a few feints and tricks that would be second nature to him. I don't want Wilder to go through a similar experience.
     
  5. JohnThomas1

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    I actually find him impossible to dislike. He is one wild unit.
     
  6. Saad54

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    The key was Fury came forward from the first bell and never relented.
     
  7. janitor

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    It was easy enough for them last time. They should have given the decision to Fury!
     
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  8. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And it was never even close.

    Sigh. Oh well, there will be a rubber match, though my dream of Deontay knocking him silly looks just like that, a dream.

    I'll have to get used to Fury, because I seriously doubt Joshua and Ruiz can beat him. He's the man, even if I don't care for him or his fighting style much.
     
  9. 70sFan865

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    This exciting Fury win made me come back to this forum. Where are guys who call Wilder a bigger and better Bob Fitzsimmons?
     
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  10. RulesMakeItInteresting

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    It's waay overdue for Wilder to get a super trainer ala Lewis/Steward and LISTEN TO HIM.

    Deontay at this stage is isn't too much better than if Earnie Shavers had become a champion. With an open ear to a great trainer, he becomes George Foreman imo.

    I personally want Deontay to improve, I really believe in him. I think he has the potential, he just needs to clean up his act and develop a mean, heavy, authoritative jab ala Foreman. He can come back...this last fight should motivate him to change his attitude toward trainers.
     
  11. RulesMakeItInteresting

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    More like an improved Earnie Shavers. But he could be SOOO much better than that.
     
  12. Saad54

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    Yes, that was the key. In the first fight he ran around too much. This time, he kept it simple. He consistently stood his ground, jabbed, and looked to come forward when the opportunity presented itself. He kept Wilder on the back foot all night long. He should have done this in the first fight. If they have a rubber match, I can't see Wilder being flexible enough to make the outcome any different. Fury knows what he has to do.

    I also thought of Bowe when I saw Fury's game plan.
     
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  13. Clean & Crisp

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    Check.
     
  14. NoNeck

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    I’d love to see Lewis and Fury have a sloppy brawl.
     
  15. Bonecrusher

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    Fury absolutely bullied him and pushed him all over the ring. He manhandled Wilder. The few big right hands Wilder threw Fury just beautifully rolled. His feints were on point his jab was on point he went to the body his hook was moving Wilder back. He said he was gonna go get him and he did. Fantastic performance by Fury.

    All of Wilders excuses today are so off putting.