CLASSIC FIGHT NIGHT THREAD:Wilder-Fury II

Originally Posted by mcvey View Post
Only if he faces a US opponent.

Canelo v Floyd did 2.2 million .
Floyd v Oscar 2.52 million.
Lewis v Tyson 1.94 million
Holyfield v Tyson1.99 million
Holyfield v Foreman 1.4 million
Floyd v Mosley 1.4 million
Cotto v Floyd 1.5 million

Dino,

You are correct! McVey is using PPV numbers, not HBO cable. PPV fights are on a bigger scale. Wlad getting 1.7 million viewers on cable is excellent. If Wilder ever fights Wlad on HBO, I would expect higher numbers.

 

I'm not. Wembley is a **** place to watch fights, you end up looking at the screens, I can do that indoors viewing my 50"

 

I think the pre fight hype, Fury's quotable mouth, and the event, the ring entrance of the fighters, and the stare down will be interesting.

If Fury comes to fight like Pulev did, he's getting sparked early.

I hope this one happens in late August 2015. No rain please.

 

That I have to admit made me laugh

 

Remember his previous US fight against Ibragimov, when they booed him from start to finish?

 

Please then, give me an example of 2 heavyweight challengers from the past who you consider possessing speed and physically gifted?

Jennings definitely possessed good handspeed with a 84" reach, and he is very athletic. I think his ring IQ is very underrated. Jennings will win a belt when Wlad retires, mark my words.

 

Ibragimov and Haye lacked the stones to engage once they were hit hard, Fury does not. There will no such booing in this fight. I can pretty much guarantee that.

 

I think Haye tried harder than people credit. Wlad simply didn't bite on any of his feints and swatted away everything he tried. Haye at least still landed a handful of decent punches like the right hand in 12. But I understand the frustration after Haye promised fireworks and the flopping in the clinches was embarressing.

Ibragimov's performance is comparable to Godoy/Louis I. He spent the whole fight ducking below Wlad's belt line trying to bait him to lean in. Shame we didn't get the Sultan of the Whitaker fight, who went to the body and head with aggressive combinations.

 

I'll tell you who lacked the stones. Your boy Wlad lacked the stones.

Who was holding on like a big girl every time Haye made his way inside to throw punches?

Haye wasn't looking to hold inside .He wanted to let loose. Wlad lacked the stones to oblige him back. And the skill.

Look how easy it would have been for Wlad to move in on Haye. A lot easier for Wlad than it was for Haye.
Yet he lacked the stones to move in on Haye and let loose.

I keep trying to tell you we're dealing with mediocrity , but you just won't listen.

 

Mendoza. Look at this graph.

https://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/01-ria-novosti-infographic-klitschko-vs-haye.jpg

Now lets talk about ball sacks.

 

I was at the Garden for Wlad vs Jennings and in my opinion the Garden is slightly overrated for viewing boxing but the atmosphere is electric. The smaller venue adjacent to the Garden (used to be called the Paramount not sure if it still is) is so much better for viewing a fight. That was where I was for Fury vs Cunningham. All one level with the seating arranged in an incline descending from the back row forward so no obstruction of view and your right up close on the ring. It only holds about seven thousand so it never has the big names but tons of quality guys on the way up. Highly recommend.

 

Good post ^

 

I'm still picking Pac by split decision. I think May will limit his offense but will not do enough in return to convincingly take the rounds.

I think both men will be wise to be cautious, I think they can hurt the other in a bad way with their best shots.


If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, I put it on the line.

 

I can see Pac throwing 5 punch combos and only landing 2 or 3, but Mayweather countering and landing 1 or 2. This will lead to a close, controversial decision and an immediate rematch. Manny must use his speed and box!

 

Exactly, this is what I see going down.

I actually hope I'm wrong, and we get some fireworks and Pac gets a knockout. Maybe we would have in 2009 at a lower weight.