CLASSIC FIGHT NIGHT THREAD:Wilder-Fury II

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by McGrain, Nov 15, 2014.


  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Wrong again! The first cut was from a different clash of heads. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    Did they relocate you yet to an old age home for the memory impaired?

    You, sir, need some help. I thought you said ADIOS to the board already?

    Yes, the head butt was deliberate. But so were Fury's multiple rabbit punches before the head butt. It's called retaliation for fouls.
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In the context you said it, it means the loss was debatable, because you used it to describe the outcome of the fight, not Wlad's performance.
     
  3. janitor

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    Perhaps the writing was already on the wall?

    Wlad had that incredible performance against Kubrat Pulev, who most people at the time thought was better than Fury.

    When Bryant Jennings gave him a more competitive fight, we just assumed that Jennings was better than we thought.

    Perhaps father time was starting to cash the cheque.

    I remember saying after the Pulev fight, that when Wlad finally lost, it would be unexpectedly, and I feel like a bit of a prophet now.
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Wlad's age is only relevant if you believe he was faster than Fury in his prime.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    You're don't?
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    How about the mental willingness to pull trigger? Doesn't that fade with age too?
     
  7. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No it's not it's called a foul, and a blatant one at that. Fury had a point deducted for rabbit punching and rightly so, but that doesn't give Wlad a pass for this. Far from it. He should have also been given a point deduction and told he would be disqualified if it happened again.
     
  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Not in the least.

    Speed is not the only variable that degrades over time.
     
  9. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    The writing was on the wall back in 2004 when Manny reassured Wlad in the corner than Williamson was no Ali and wouldn't be able to maintain the movement he was employing all night long.
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    I never said I don't.

    I'm saying Fury beat Wlad because he could beat him to the punch and move out of range.

    Unless a person believes Wlad was quicker than him in his prime and would have cut the ring off in his prime, I see no way that Wlad should be favoured.
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    I think had Wlad been I'm range at any point he'd have pulled the trigger.
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    Of course it isn't, but it was far and away the most relevant factor in Fury winning the fight.
     
  13. mcvey

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    Wlad caused the rabbit punches by turning his head away from the action, just as he turned his body away from his opponent several times because he couldn't stand the heat in the kitchen.

    Wlad had two cuts, one was caused by himself butting Fury, this is a fact that was mentioned in the next day papers.

    Nothing wrong with my memory I remember every lie you have uttered on this site and from time to time I will remind you of them.

    Wlad has never had any appetite for a real war and showed his lack of cojones against an average fighter who had bigger b*lls than him.
    I hope the rematch is in the UK with an honest referee who won't allow those head locks ,and continual turning his back that Wlad employed then maybe the Ukrainian PED king
    may be going bye byes!
    ps No more pms trying to kiss and make up, I don't like you, I don't respect you , and I never will.
     
  14. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Not the vast majority of them. Fury intentionally punched Wlad in the back of the head several times while they were standing chest to chest/cheek to cheek. It's not like Wlad was tricking Fury and turning his head while the punches were coming. I know that nobody wants to make excuses for Wlad but I am very surprised people here are defending thsee blatant fouls.
     
  15. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    They were both rabbit punching each other. Wlad was doing it too
    And the highlighted is exactly what he was doing.

    Watch form 5.20 . You get a better angle. Wlad is turning and attempting to run away. Fury cought him because Wlad had turned his whole body away from him. Wlad initiated the clinch. He should have fought in the situation he himself created and not ran away from it.
    Once Fury realized Wlad was trying to flee , he with draws from the punch. It was an absolute joke to have a point taken , especially when Wlad wasn't even warned for lauching his head clean into Tyson's face. This farcical corrupt behaviour is why the sport needs ridding of Wlad

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