Classic Forum Collective Top 10 All-Time Heavyweights--POLL CLOSED!

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  1. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    After I've posted for all the fighters ranked through June 2009, I'll add together the votes for all the places as a check: there should be 61 votes for each place.

    I'll up-date each month, as long as further lists are received.


    #X/Y means 'Y X'th place votes',
    eg, #3/12 means 'Twelve 3rd-place votes'



    Muhammad Ali
    Mentioned on 61 of 61 Ballots.
    #1/45 #2/11 #3/2 #4/2 #6/1

    Joe Louis
    Mentioned on 61 of 61 Ballots.
    #1/14 #2/42 #4/1 #5/2 #6/1 #9/1

    Larry Holmes
    Mentioned on 58 of 61 Ballots.
    #2/1 #3/16 #4/12 #5/9 #6/8 #7/7 #8/1 #9/2 #10/2

    Rocky Marciano
    Mentioned on 59 of 61 Ballots.
    #2/3 #3/15 #4/10 #5/6 #6/6 #7/6 #8/5 #9/4 #10/4

    Lennox Lewis
    Mentioned on 52 of 61 Ballots.
    #1/1 #3/10 #4/11 #5/12 #6/5 #7/5 #8/5 #9/2 #10/1

    Sam Langford
    Mentioned on 6 of 61 Ballots.
    #6/1 #7/2 #9/1 #10/1

    John L Sullivan
    Mentioned on 3 of 61 Ballots.
    #4/1 #8/1 #10/1

    Jersey Joe Walcott
    Mentioned on 3 of 61 Ballots.
    #5/1 #9/1 #10/1

    Gene Tunney
    Mentioned on 4 of 61 Ballots.
    #8/1 #9/1 #10/2

    Harry Wills
    Mentioned on 3 of 61 Ballots.
    #10/3

    Riddick Bowe
    Mentioned on 1 of 61 Ballots.
    #9/1

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    Still to be tallied: Jack Johnson, George Foreman, Jack Dempsey, Mike Tyson, Sonny Liston, Joe Frazier, Evander Holyfield, Jim Jeffries.

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  2. brando18b4h

    brando18b4h Active Member Full Member

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    1) Louis
    2) Ali
    3)Dempsey
    4)Marciano
    5)Frazier
    6)Foreman
    7)Jack Johnson
    8)Larry Holmes
    9)Lennox Lewis
    10) Sonny Liston
     
  3. RNONV

    RNONV New Member Full Member

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    What. No Tyson. He'd stomp tune half of your 10 guys.LOL
     
  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    1. Louis
    2. Ali
    3. Lewis
    4. Tyson
    5. Holmes
    6. Marciano
    7. Foreman
    8. Dempsey
    9. W. Klitschko
    10. Charles Liston
     
  5. PbP Bacon

    PbP Bacon ALL TIME FAT Full Member

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    ...bravest statement I have seen in this thread so far. I suppose it is gonna raise some controversy :think
     
  6. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Are we voting on legacy here or head to head? I voted on a mix of both.

    Head to head, I think you can make a case for Klitschko in 8-15 spots.
     
  7. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    No Way Vitali Klitschko could rank between 8th and 15 spots...his best win is over an out of shape fraud sam peter, who has turned out to be a nobody.
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Maybe so ,but its one man's honest opinion and thats what is asked for:good
     
  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Seamus was talking about Wlad, not Vitali.

    Peter did not look like a fraud vs James Toney or Wlad. But Vitali crushed him after a near 4 year layoff, at age 37 with no warm up fights.
     
  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I was using a very scientific (hah!) mix of results against contemporaries and head to head with some lesser weighting to the era in which the fighter fought. Wlad fought a lot of guys who could have knocked out any man of any era (including himself). He handled almost all of them which should be congradulated. I do tend to think that HW's today hit harder- en masse- than those of previous eras, partly due to increased weight/strength training and tactics for shorter fighters (12 rounds as opposed to 15 or 25 or 40.) And sure, I am trying to stir **** up.
     
  11. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Anybody with a sane card knows Toney won the first fight. Toney hit him with counter right hands all night and embarrased a man who YOU THOUGHT was going to knock toney out in 5. Toney btw was 38 years old and OBESE. Toney was shot for the rematch.


    Peter was actually an in shape 243lb vs Wlad, and without the rabbit punches causing the knockdowns, wlad wins a wide decision.


    Sweet....Peter had recently been knocked down and nearly lost to a 38 year old Jameel Mccline. Peter also just lost to Eddie Chambers.
     
  12. keith

    keith ESB OG Full Member

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    Doing well.

    Just popping in here and there.

    Keith
     
  13. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    THE HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION


    MIKE CASEY'S ALL-TIME TOP 20


    01. Jack Dempsey (USA)
    02. Jack Johnson (USA)
    03. Joe Louis (USA)
    04. Muhammad Ali (USA)\
    05. Jim Jeffries (USA)
    06. Gene Tunney (USA)
    07. Rocky Marciano (USA)
    08. George Foreman (USA)
    09. Mike Tyson (USA)
    10. Sam Langford (Canada)
    11. Joe Frazier (USA)
    12. Lennox Lewis (England)
    13. Larry Holmes (USA)
    14. Evander Holyfield (USA)
    15. Sonny Liston (USA)
    16. Joe Jeannette (USA)
    17. Bob Fitzsimmons (England)
    18. Jim Corbett (USA)
    19. Ezzard Charles (USA)
    20. Harry Wills (USA)
     
  14. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    My infamous list:

    1. Joe Louis
    2. Muhamad Ali
    3. Jack Johnson
    4. Jim Jeffries
    5. Jack Dempsey
    6. Rocky Marciano
    7. Sonny Liston
    8. Lenox Lewis
    9. Sam Langford
    10. Joe Frazier
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  15. curly

    curly Fastest hands in the West Full Member

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    1. Joe Louis
    2. Cassius Clay
    3. Jack Dempsey
    4. Jack Johnson
    5. Larry Holmes
    6. George Foreman
    7. Rocky Marciano
    8. Joe Frazier
    9. Sonny Liston
    10. Floyd Patterson