Classic Forum Collective Top 10 All-Time Heavyweights--POLL CLOSED!

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    :lol:

    We both rated Frazier at #5 I think. Willis over Foreman is highly suspect considering Foreman is one of the few who has a victory over an undefeated fighter on this list.

    Jeez my list is awful. Was definitely influenced by nostalgia in regards to Dempsey. Must have been influenced by the strong Liston apologist to have ever ranked him that high. No Lewis but Liston is just wrong.

     
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  2. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION RESULTS:

    1. 1675 Muhammad Ali (52)
    2. 1375 Joe Louis (23)
    3. 638 Rocky Marciano (1)
    4. 580 Larry Holmes
    5. 488 Lennox Lewis (1)
    6. 462 Jack Johnson (1)
    7. 318 (tie) George Foreman
    7. 318 (tie) Jack Dempsey (2)
    9. 233 Mike Tyson
    10. 221 Joe Frazier

    There is a stickied thread with all of the divisional results.
     
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  3. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Tyson in the top 10....:nono
     
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  4. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    Yeah, pretty easily.
     
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  5. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Me no likey.
     
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  6. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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  7. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    :lol:

    Mainly because I consider Holy a top 10'er, and he beat Mike's arse as a big underdog as well as some other really solid ones as well.
     
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  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Tyson wasn't personally in my Top 10, and I was surprised he wound up there, but I never for a second thought it was unfair or considered him undeserving.

    I always viewed him as a borderline top 10 guy, and found it interesting that he finished there.

    With no specific criteria set, I can certainly see various arguments that point in his favor.

    So I had no real issue with him.

    The only one that jumped to mind as something I wasn't so sure of was Pac being in the top 10 at 26. I thought that was a stretch, and my thinking was people had him fresh on the mind and were a little infected with Pac-Man fever (as I believe that poll was taking place over a range that included Pac-Cotto).

    Even still, across the board, I thought the Classic Forum did an outstanding job and I think the final results are solid.

    :smoke
     
    Rumsfeld, Jun 8, 2012
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  9. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    Well, I'm biased man.

    I think after Ali and Louis, things become heavily debatable and subjective and it's very dependent on what you place value on. The top ten aren't all there for excelling in the exact same ways and reasons. Outside of Ali/Louis/Holmes, Mike ran through about as many rated heavyweights as just about anyone else and was particularly dominant doing it. Holyfield has the H2H wins and better resume, Tyson was the more dominant fighter at his best and had a superior title reign. I rate Mike anywhere from 7th at best to 10th. There's just too much talent and ability staring me in the face to be satisfied keeping him out.
     
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  10. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Agreed. I think the list, all in all is very good. I was expecting a lot more old timers like Walcott or Tunney in there (which I wouldn't have agreed with)

    Good to see the modern heavies get their due :good
     
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  11. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Cool! Glad to see people still showing interests in the results. Seems like it took forever to finally get all of those down. :lol:

    :good
     
    Rumsfeld, Jun 9, 2012
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  12. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I used to think that, I have a feeling we may have quite a similar list if you include holy as well. What is yours?

    Ali
    Louis
    Holmes
    Johnson
    Lewis
    Foreman
    Marciano
    Frazier
    Holyfield
    Tyson
     
    Webbiano, Jun 9, 2012
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  13. Diagoras

    Diagoras Active Member Full Member

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    Mine is:

    1) Ali
    2) Louis
    3) Lewis
    4) Holmes
    5) Marciano
    6) Dempsey
    7) Foreman
    8) Johnson
    9) Frazier
    10) Liston
     
    Diagoras, Jun 9, 2012
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  14. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Ah, I see you're not buying into Dempsey. Which is cool, there are some that don't. Similar list though :good

    Ali
    Louis
    Holmes
    Marciano
    Lewis
    Foreman
    Johnson
    Dempsey
    Frazier
    Holyfield
     
    turbotime, Jun 9, 2012
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  15. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    I feel Tyson belongs in the top 10, but I agree Holyfield should be above him. Dempsey has no case to outrank either one as I see it.
     
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